Posted on 08/18/2007 2:05:38 PM PDT by Kaslin
COMBAT OUTPOST RAWAH, Iraq — When a U.S. Marine foot patrol was heading back to its base recently in Iraq’s western Anbar province, the Marines noticed a white truck about two blocks off heading their way.
A Marine at the head of the patrol held up a hand and waved it side to side a few times, and the driver immediately pulled to the curb. Only when he saw the Marines had gone in behind the razor wire and protective barriers at their patrol base entrance did the driver restart his engine.
When driving in convoys, they sometimes wave flags to get other traffic to stop.
“Ninety-nine point nine percent of the time, that’s what happens,” said Sgt. Michael Mills, 29, of Oceanside, Calif., a vehicle commander in 3rd Platoon.
But not always, the Marines say.
Last month, task force Marines went through their escalating sequence of steps to get an oncoming vehicle to halt but, according to the task force, it kept coming.
Under the “escalation of force” rules, U.S. troops must follow when a vehicle gets too close, they are required to take a series of actions before firing. In the case last month, the Marines fired into the vehicle, wounding its three occupants, they said.
Some days later, Marine Maj. Hezekiah Barge Jr., the Task Force Highlander executive officer, took a patrol into Rawah to gauge the mood of the populace and sense the security situation firsthand. One resident brought up the incident and asked why the Marines had fired.
“Tell him,” Barge said to his interpreter, “several of our men did shoot the truck because the driver of the truck did not stop. This is why it’s very important whenever my Marines say stop, stop.
“Tell him we’re only here to bring peace and prosperity, not to hurt any Iraqis — innocent Iraqis,” Barge said.
“We want to use as minimal force as necessary in order to make them stop,” another task force Marine, Sgt. Joseph Fankhauser, 26, of Oceanside, Calif., said in an interview last month. “But, at the same time, we have to have an effective course of action.”
It was especially important, said Fankhauser, a scout team leader with Company C, 1st Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, because of the possibility of explosive-laden vehicles, including those driven by suicide bombers.
For Marines taking part in the counterinsurgency in Iraq, danger may lurk even when a vehicle is not moving.
Around 30 kilometers south of Al Qaim the morning of Aug. 2, one of the same battalion’s Marines was killed and three others wounded when they moved to investigate several oil trucks. Concealed gunmen appeared suddenly and fired on the Marines, who were members of the battalion’s Headquarters and Service Company.
But even in the desert, at least so far, say the Marines say, incidents like that of Aug. 2 are still the exception to the rule.
“Probably 75 to 85 percent of the time … they see you coming and they pull over,” said Mills said.
“We’ve been here long enough now that they pretty much understand the routine,” he said, “ which helps us out and makes our job a lot easier …,” he said.
Around 30 kilometers south of Al Qaim the morning of Aug. 2, one of the same battalions Marines was killed and three others wounded when they moved to investigate several oil trucks. Concealed gunmen appeared suddenly and fired on the Marines, who were members of the battalions Headquarters and Service Company.
Wish they were firing “into the vehicle” with something heavier that those pissant .223 M-16s and SAWs. My track/wheeled mechanic daughter volunteered for a few recovery convoys when she was in Habaniya(?) and was usually behind Mother II. Never had to fire, but the .50 caliber belts were comforting, she said.
1)Shoot, and it’s just a knucklehead driver (or worse, a family...it happens) you’ve just wounded or killed.
2)Don’t shoot, and it is a VBIED who kills you and ever other trooper at the CP.
3)Shoot, and it’s VBIED driver you have just stopped.
Happens everyday. You are now him. What do you do?
Regards,
Jail time.
5.56x45 rounds penetrate very well. Unless you hit the brain or spine, the person hit has at least 15 or 16 seconds of voluntary action.
If the heart isn’t struck, then usually the person struck can get medical care, and will usually get better. Of course multiple strikes change this equation.
A certain Theodore Roosevelt wrote about the effect of 7mm Mauser rounds on US solders some 1009 years ago.
The big advantage of the 5.56mm is you can shoot it easily (recoil is minimal) and you can carry enough to last quite a while if you do get into a fire fight.
Fortunately, all our engagements were cleared by the 15-6 investigations...none ever got to an Art 32, thank God.
Regards,
Yes, indeed, thank God.
Wow, I knew Mausers have been around a while, but jeesh!
:)
Sorry, should have been 109 years ago.
Good catch
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