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EDITORIAL: In defense of 55 electoral votes
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| 8/20/7
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Posted on 08/20/2007 7:50:44 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Because 19 of California's 53 districts are represented by Republicans, and 22 districts voted for President Bush in 2004, this initiative would probably offer around 20 electoral votes to a Republican in the 2008 presidential election.The Chronicle: We're against changing the process until we can figure out a way to make sure democrats win.
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posted on
08/20/2007 9:31:51 AM PDT
by
GATOR NAVY
(Hey! Must be a devil between us)
To: GiveMeGoth
Some Democratic candidates would have been elected under a system of election by districts (e.g. Johnson in 1964), but it would certainly favor Republicans. One analyst noted that under such a system Nixon would have won in 1960, since he carried more states and more congressional districts than Kennedy did. I don’t know if anybody has made the same analysis for more recent elections (1976 and 1992 come to mind).
To: GATOR NAVY
You've got the idea.
To: DuncanWaring
Thanks for posting. That is an interesting article.
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posted on
08/20/2007 9:42:46 AM PDT
by
jimmango
To: dfwgator
Direct election (transcending state boundaries) of the President and Vice-President is almost as impractical today as it was in 1789.
To: SmithL
AMERICANS DON'T like the Electoral College. How about "Americans don't like one state having 55 electoral votes."
California has 55 votes, Texas has 34, New York has 31, Florida has 27 Pennsylvania and Illinois have 21, Ohio has 20, and the rest are less than 20 each.
California's Electoral College votes are in a league of their own. Perhaps the answer is not to apportion California's Electoral Votes, but instead to divide California into two states?
-PJ
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posted on
08/20/2007 9:52:52 AM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
To: Redleg Duke
This is exactly what Nebraska and Maine do. It is the only way to apportion Electoral Votes to more closely reflect the popular vote without changing the Constitution.
I fully support these efforts and think the practice should be spread to all 50 states.
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posted on
08/20/2007 9:56:12 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: EagleUSA
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posted on
08/20/2007 9:59:33 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: MrB
I've asked people who want to do away with the Electoral College if they'd like to do away with the Senate as well, since it was structured the way it is for the same reasons - I get a blank stare, or, in the case of the more arrogant libs - denial that they have anything to do with each other. The Founding Fathers set up the Constitution so that Senators were appointed by the State Legislature. You prefer we go back to that method?
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posted on
08/20/2007 9:59:53 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: SmithL
LOL!! These shameless scumbag Democrats at the SF Chronicle defend the electoral college only when they could get hurt by a change like the one proposed in their own state. Previously, they could be heard whining all across the country about how unfair the electoral college is.
To: SmithL
Naturally, the SF Chronicle likes the proposal put forth by Democrat elector John Koza.
To: Yo-Yo
I think that electoral votes should be apportioned by geographic area rather than population.
To: OESY
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posted on
08/20/2007 10:18:28 AM PDT
by
kabar
To: SmithL
NOT a single person alive today could set up a Nation like our FOUNDERS did. To think someone dumb enough to work for a san fruitcisco newspaper could out reason our Founders... is insane! You want to see civil war... screw with the Electoral College!
LLS
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posted on
08/20/2007 10:23:44 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
To: Lancey Howard
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posted on
08/20/2007 10:24:32 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: GiveMeGoth
“Excuse me, correct me if i am wrong but if every state used
this new California system to pick electors,given the
present ideological makeup of this country, a demoncratic
president would NEVER be elected.”
I’m with you. According to my threadbare NewsMax t-shirt proclaiming “Bush Country 2004”, the USA looks mighty red to me.
Welcome to FR by the way.
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posted on
08/20/2007 10:26:06 AM PDT
by
shove_it
(nonilligitimus carborundum)
To: GiveMeGoth
That’s a county map, not a congressional district one. Notice, for example, Illinois. Note the blue fleck up in the right hand corner on Lake Michigan’s shore that you can barely see? That’s Cook County. A little over 40% of the state’s entire population lives in that one county. And it has a concomitant share of the state’s congressional districts (many of which extend into the collar counties surrounding it) and votes. So don’t be fooled.
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posted on
08/20/2007 10:52:09 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: Yo-Yo
The Founding Fathers set up the Constitution so that Senators were appointed by the State Legislature. You prefer we go back to that method?I certainly do.
That would be true "Campaign Finance Reform".
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posted on
08/20/2007 11:01:47 AM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: dfwgator
Worse, it nationalizes vote fraud. Ballot box stuffing in Philadelphia is confined to Pennsylvannia right now. With a national poll, the incentives for vote fraud are heightened.
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posted on
08/20/2007 11:07:05 AM PDT
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
To: DuncanWaring
Well, as things sit today, so would I. My State (Michigan) has a Republican House and Senate, but two Democrat US Senators.
However, tomorrow? Who knows.
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posted on
08/20/2007 11:08:48 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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