Posted on 08/21/2007 4:02:05 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
What does that mean?
I mean, seriously.
I think that means, he intends to keep doing what we’re doing now.
Is that what you get out of that? In that case, I have a proposition to save us all a lot of gas, time and trouble.
Why even bother with the trouble of going to Walmart? The stress of parking. The lines. There’s a far easier way.
Let’s just have our paychecks deposited directly in the PLA (Peoples Liberation Army) account, at the People’s Bank of China.
Now that’s growth.
Just not for us...........
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Romney’s speaking on these vital issues and no one else is. Giuliani has been stealing some of his ideas and presenting them as his own. I don’t care about Romney’s stand on abortion when he was governor of a liberal state. He had to support Roe v Wade because governors are sworn to obey the law and that’s the law of the land. He has said that he will appoint conservative judges and that’s good enough for me. That’s about the best a president can do. It’s up to clergy and medical personnel to make abortion an abomination like it used to be.
I’m still undecided on Romney, but I have no use for CFG, any more than I have for the editorial board of the WSJ. One-note charlies.
Its not an organization that cares that much about “the other issues”.
But,but.but he’s an evil Mormon,
For Total Shame!
Love and Kisses Little Bill
Thanks.
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They like those two because they are big on “growth” through wage deflation, ie, open borders.
I noticed that too.
You Missed his hatred of the Second Amendment
Well, Club for Growth didn’t comment on that. They did comment on the other things, but it was cut out of Clintonfatigued’s post.
Don't think so. Pat Toomey (who would've made an awesome Senator had GWB not stepped in to save Spector) is the head of this group.
They study their candidates and positions carefully. A pro-growth agenda means more economic freedom, which breeds more of the other types of freedom.
I'd be interested in their evaluation of every candidate.
Yes, they are. They only focus on economic issues similar to what the NRA does as it pertains to the 2nd amendment issues.
Art Laffer, Larry Kudlow, Richard Gilder, Dusty Rhoades and Stephen Moore started the organization to focus on economic growth, not gun rights, abortion, etc.
Yes, that White House Spector gambit not only robbed the senate of a good conservative from Pennsylvania, it cost Stephen Moore his place at the head of the table at the Club for Growth.
“If Club For Some People’s Growth is for Romney, I’ll have to be against him, I’m afraid.”
The Club for Growth is in favor of economic freedom, property rights (against Kelo), low taxes, smaller Government, and increased American competitiveness. These policies help American citizens in ALL income categories. They also are ‘RINO’ hunters and they’ve opposed earmarks and pork barrel corruption and the excesses of even GOP Congress. Their current President, Pat Toomey, had a great track record as a conservative Congressman and ran against Arlen Specter in 2004, losing in a close primary.
The only reason to disdain the Club for Growth is if you want our country to be a socialist economic backwater choked by high taxes and bad Govt regulations.
I agree about the Club for Growth. Folks have been duped by the Club for Growth. They are for open borders, amnesty, etc.
More here:
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2007/02/club-for-growth-and-2008-presidential.html
You dont understand club for growth.
All our freedoms rest on economic freedom. They are a pro-economic freedom, pro-property-rights, anti-big-Government conservative group, the premier group to vouch for economic conservative credentials IMHO, and the #1 group that is actually doing something about defeating RINOs.
Many of our favorite conservatives in Congress were helped by Club for Growth, and many of our least favorites have been targetted.
Attacking CfG via Moore si guilt-by-association. Some years ago, Steven Moore was in Cato and he helped defeat ID cards for immigration purposes. Then he was in Club for Growth.
Cato, yes, is an open-borders organization
... but Club for Growth is led by anti-amnesty Pat Toomey, has not advocated the Bush-style immigration ‘deal’, and has strongly supported the best Senators on this issue - DeMint and Coburn in particular.
If they criticized Hunter for not signing up for the conservative RSC budget, that seems fair, as they went after everyone including many Republicans who voted for Bush’s Medicare drug plan.
Some of the CfG points
SUMMARY
As Massachusetts Governor, Mitt Romney’s record on economic issues was generally good. He demonstrated a willingness to take on his Legislature and deserves credit for the many pro-growth measures he advocated and the modest reforms he was able to achieve. While his record on taxes, spending and entitlement reform is flawed, it is, on balance, encouraging, especially given the liberal Massachusetts Legislature. His record on trade, school choice, regulations, and tort reform all indicate a strong respect for the power of market solutions.
At the same time, Governor Romney’s history is marked by statements at odds with his gubernatorial record and his campaign rhetoric. His strident opposition to the flat tax; his refusal to endorse the Bush tax cuts in 2003; his support for various minor tax hikes; and his once-radically bad views on campaign finance reform all cast some doubts on the extent and durability of his commitment to limited-government, pro-growth policies. His landmark steps in the health care arena also exhibit a mixture of desirable pro-free market efforts combined with a regrettable willingness to accept, if not embrace, a massive new regulatory regime. Nevertheless, given his outstanding private sector entrepreneurial experience; the strong pro-growth positions he has taken on the campaign trail; his overall record as governor; and the fact that the U.S. Congress will not be as liberal as the Massachusetts Legislature, we are reasonably optimistic that, as President, Mitt Romney would generally advocate a pro-growth agenda.
KEY POINTS
“While Governor Romney still needs to explain some of his past positions,” Mr. Toomey continued, “given his overall record as governor and the strong pro-growth positions he has taken on the campaign trail, we are reasonably optimistic that, as President, Mitt Romney would generally advocate a pro-growth agenda.”
Pro-Growth Tax Policy:
Governor Romney’s Record Includes “Solid Efforts To Promote Pro-Growth Tax Policy.” “That said, Governor Romney’s single term contained some solid efforts to promote pro-growth tax policy. In May of 2004, Mitt Romney proposed cutting the state’s income-tax rate from 5.3% to 5.0% - a measure Massachusetts voters had approved in a 2000 referendum, but was blocked by the State Legislature in 2002. The proposed tax cut would have provided $675 million in relief over a year and a half. When the Massachusetts Legislature refused to budge, Romney proposed the same tax cut in 2005 and again in 2006 with no success. Romney was more successful when he took on the State Legislature for imposing a retroactive tax on capital gains earnings. After a bloody fight, Romney succeeded in passing a bill preventing the capital gains tax from being applied retroactively, resulting in a rebate of $275 million for capital gains taxes collected in 2002. Governor Romney also signed legislation that provided property tax relief to seniors and legislation establishing a two-day tax-free shopping holiday in 2005.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
Imposing Fiscal Discipline:
Club For Growth: Governor Romney “Imposed Much-Needed Fiscal Discipline On A Very Liberal Massachusetts Legislature.” “While there is no question that Governor Romney’s initial fiscal discipline slacked off in the second half of his term, on balance, he imposed some much-needed fiscal discipline on a very liberal Massachusetts Legislature.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
* Governor Romney’s Record Of Fiscal Discipline “More Positive Than Negative, Especially When One Considers That Average Spending Increased Only 2.22% Over His Four Years.” “On balance, his record comes out more positive than negative, especially when one considers that average spending increased only 2.22% over his four years, well below the population plus inflation benchmark of nearly 3%. Governor Romney receives credit for actual spending in FY 2003, even though he entered office halfway into the fiscal year, because of the tremendous spending cuts he forced down the Legislature’s throat in January of 2003. Facing a $650 million deficit he inherited from the previous administration, Romney convinced the unfriendly State Legislature to grant him unilateral power to make budget cuts and unveiled $343 million in cuts to cities, healthcare, and state agencies. This fiscal discipline continued in 2004, in which Romney continued to slash ‘nearly every part of state government’ to close a $3 billion deficit.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
* Governor Romney “Attempted To Cut Down On Government Spending By Streamlining Many Duplicative And Wasteful Elements On Beacon Hill.” “To his credit, Romney attempted to cut down on government spending by streamlining many duplicative and wasteful elements of Beacon Hill. ... Governor Romney successfully consolidated the social service and public health bureaucracy and restructured the Metropolitan District Commission. Romney even eliminated half of the executive branch’s press positions, saving $1.2 million. “ (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
A Health Care Plan That Encourages Individually-Owned Health Insurance:
Club For Growth: “Most of the blame for the deficiencies in the Massachusetts plan lies with the liberal Legislature which, absent the resistance of Governor Romney, almost certainly would have enacted a major tax increase while moving healthcare reform in the worst possible direction.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
Club For Growth: “Governor Romney Deserves Credit For Proposing A Plan That Encourages Individually-Owned Health Insurance...” “But one cannot talk about Romney’s record on entitlement reform without considering the universal healthcare plan Governor Romney helped craft in Massachusetts. ... Given these limitations, Governor Romney deserves credit for proposing (and to a lesser extent, enacting) a plan that encourages individually-owned health insurance and circumvents some of the inequities carved into the federal tax code.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
* The Health Care Plan “’Connector’ Does Dramatically Facilitate Individually-Owned Health Insurance Plans...” “In order to bypass this inequity, Romney created a device known as the “Connector” that serves as a government-sponsored clearinghouse/regulator for private healthcare plans. ... Nevertheless, the Massachusetts ‘Connector’ does dramatically facilitate individually-owned health insurance plans by enabling individuals to purchase health insurance with pre-tax dollars and choose from a number of competing private plans.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
* Governor Romney Made “Progress” In Deregulating The Insurance Industry. “Governor Romney tried to deregulate the overregulated healthcare insurance coverage. Many of his efforts were rebuffed by the Legislature, but he did make some progress. Thanks to Governor Romney, HMOs can now offer high deductible plans tied to health savings accounts; Massachusetts set a three-year moratorium on new benefit mandates; and individuals aged 19-26 have the option of enrolling in low-cost plans with dollar-limited annual benefits.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
Anti-Regulation Efforts:
Club For Growth: “On balance, Romney’s anti-regulation efforts reflect an intuitive appreciation for the free market and its important role in promoting economic growth. While many of his proposals were rejected by the State Legislature, he demonstrated strong support for private enterprise in a state where regulation is a way of life.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
Strong Proponent Of Tort Reform:
Club For Growth: “From his 1994 Senate race, to his gubernatorial campaign in 2002, and throughout his four years as governor, Romney was a strong proponent of tort reform. ... On the campaign trail, Romney has taken his impressive record to the national level, insisting on badly needed nationwide tort reform.” (The Club For Growth, “Mitt Romney’s Record On Economic Issues,” Press Release, 8/21/07)
On an individual level, I agree - as long as your economic activities do not threaten my own livelyhood or imperil my family/community/nation. Does CFG acknowledge that distinction? If so, I have no problem with them.
Correct on the pro-amnesty, pro-NAFTA, pro-Mexican trucks “Club for Growth” A bunch of little Cato Institute wannabees
The Club for Growth ITSELF is pro-amnesty, pro-open borders and pro-UNFAIR trade, no matter how you gry to spin it.
I’ve always liked Pat Toomey, and I’m really disappointed with him for being with the C4G now.
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