[ClaireSolt]

And when do they get to the point where they know that they have to stand up to them instead of cowering in the corner? It may take a generation, as Sadam killed everyone who showed spunk.

[cricket]

every day American soldiers continue to wage the clash of arms in Iraq, they also are fighting – and perhaps winning – a consequential clash of ideas.

. . .meantime, a most consequential clash of ideas is being waged here at home that will impact the final outcome of this war; and as well, life as we know it; here at home.

We must remember that Democrats are not just 'invested' in defeat; they are committed to it.