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The Flying Imams Surrender to John Doe
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Posted on 08/23/2007 6:19:51 AM PDT by WBL 1952

In the case of the Flying Imams against US Airways and the Metropolitan Airports Commission, brought to you by CAIR, the Flying Imams have dismissed their claims against the John Doe defendants who alerted the airline to their suspicious behavior. Minneapolis attorney Gerard Nolting, who volunteered his services to any John Doe defendant ultimately named by the Flying Imams, writes:

The Flying Imams just filed a dismissal against all John Doe passengers. Total surrender before any discovery is even taken.

In the most recent order entered in the case (as I noted here and here), Judge Montgomery denied the Flying Imams' motion to close the proceedings to the public. In the lawsuit, at least, the Flying Imams are flying nowhere fast.

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Chalk one up for Americans.
1 posted on 08/23/2007 6:19:53 AM PDT by WBL 1952
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To: WBL 1952
This is really the tip of the iceberg - Lets hope that it is at least a step in the right direction in countering their motivations.

Interesting how it all seems to come together - continued...

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

2 posted on 08/23/2007 6:24:16 AM PDT by expatguy (New and Improved ! - Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: WBL 1952

Gerald Nolting deserves a pat on the back for volunteering to represent.


3 posted on 08/23/2007 6:27:46 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it- Aristotle)
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To: WBL 1952
Total surrender before any discovery is even taken.

Legal Freepers: Is this significant?

4 posted on 08/23/2007 6:30:30 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: WBL 1952
The John Does should now file suit against the Flying Imams for intentional infliction of emotional distress.
5 posted on 08/23/2007 6:31:07 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: Kerretarded
Gerald Nolting is officially excluded from all lawyer jokes I will tell for the rest of my life. I don't know or care what his politics may be, he did the decent thing here.

The real bullies have backed down.

6 posted on 08/23/2007 6:31:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: WBL 1952

The Muslims should be countersued for filing a frivolous lawsuit.


7 posted on 08/23/2007 6:33:29 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Vigilanteman

“The real bullies have backed down.”
_________________________________________________________

This time.


8 posted on 08/23/2007 6:34:08 AM PDT by Roccus (SYNC/SYNC/EOT)
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To: 50sDad
Total surrender before any discovery is even taken.

Legal Freepers: Is this significant?

Yes, very.

It means that CAIR is afraid of what the discovery process might uncover.

Under modern "notice pleading" in civil actions, once you file a lawsuit the other side is entitled under the civil practice rules to get ANY documents you have which have any potential relevance to the lawsuit, or which are reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of relevant information.

CAIR filed this lawsuit purely for the intimidation factor. I don't think they can stand the light of day shone on their files.

Of course the airline can still get after them, if they want to, but they have public relations issues that the private citizens did not. My own attitude would be d--n the torpedoes, and start filing notices to produce and interrogatories. Then notice the depositions of all the officers and members of the board of directors, and confront them with their writings (all in a very low key and affable way, of course.) Make them rue the day!

I'm sure that Mr. Nolting had done something of the sort right off the bat.

9 posted on 08/23/2007 6:38:29 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: 50sDad

Discovery would have disclosed to the public & DHS the backgrounds of the Flying Imams.


10 posted on 08/23/2007 6:41:18 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: expatguy
From your blog, put very concisely and eloquently on the subject of these ostentatious displays of Islamic piety:
Simply put, it's a political statement and a repudiation of everything that our nation stands for, it is the so-called moderate's way of instinctively showing their fraternal support for their violent co-religionists. Inadvertently, Mrs. Rehan Seyam makes it quite clear that the hijab for her is a symbol of Islamic self-assertion and ethnic chauvinism, it is a reactive revolutionary response and a rejection to assimilation and integration. You might notice that many of these displays of Islamic self-assertion and ethnic chauvinism only became popular after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

11 posted on 08/23/2007 6:49:20 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Deguello

“Discovery would have disclosed to the public & DHS the backgrounds of the Flying Imams.” AND:
“Judge Montgomery denied the Flying Imams’ motion to close the proceedings to the public.”
If they had been granted a trial that was closed to the public, ie:secret, they may well have NOT dropped the suit.


12 posted on 08/23/2007 7:19:21 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: WBL 1952
OK, now deport them.
13 posted on 08/23/2007 7:21:43 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: denydenydeny
I think every American, and for that matter, every citizen of Western civilization needs to ask themselves one simple question whenever they wonder to themselves if these arrogant , vocal so-called moderates conscientiously or subconsciously support OBL ---

"Where the hell were all these Muslims prior to 9/11?"

14 posted on 08/23/2007 7:29:53 AM PDT by expatguy (New and Improved ! - Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: WBL 1952
Total surrender before any discovery is even taken.

Didn't want to reveal "methods and tactics" doncha know...

15 posted on 08/23/2007 7:33:01 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: Philistone

==> “ Didn’t want to reveal “methods and tactics” doncha know...” <==

Bingo! There is nothing moderate about these “moderates”. Their mission was an act of espionage and conspiracy, attempting to discover defensive tactics and methods in order to develop a successful plan of attack.


16 posted on 08/23/2007 7:40:48 AM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: expatguy

“Interesting how it all seems to come together - continued”...(then from your blog)...

“Simply put, it’s a political statement and a repudiation of everything that our nation stands for, it is the so-called moderate’s way of instinctively showing their fraternal support for their violent co-religionists. Inadvertently, Mrs. Rehan Seyam makes it quite clear that the hijab for her is a symbol of Islamic self-assertion and ethnic chauvinism, it is a reactive revolutionary response and a rejection to assimilation and integration. You might notice that many of these displays of Islamic self-assertion and ethnic chauvinism only became popular after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Prior to September 11th it was a rare occurrence to find someone asking if they can pray before a flight departure or insisting to wear a hijab. You’d be hard pressed to find a cabdriver who would refuse a passenger simply because he was carrying a bottle of wine and you can rest assured that no one would have the audacity to demand that you finance and build “foot basins” for them to wash their feet.”

...OUTSTANDING!

...speaking of “moderate”, a MUST READ here...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017872.php#comments

Thanks to you and thanks to Robert Spencer.


17 posted on 08/23/2007 7:52:53 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: WBL 1952

Thanks for posting. More discussion here...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017880.php#comments

...thanks to Robert Spencer and all of the oustanding posters at jihadwatch.


18 posted on 08/23/2007 9:13:40 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Wasn’t there an old movie with Barbara Stanwyck and I believe Gary Cooper called “Meet John Doe”? It was a great movie - we don’t have the actors like those in the early days where they didn’t have props and special effects to cover up for their lack of talent.


19 posted on 08/23/2007 9:15:38 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: princess leah

I don’t recall the movie but The Flying Imams sure “acted” aggrieved. Mohammedans rated that “show” 5 crescents. /sarcasm


20 posted on 08/23/2007 9:24:38 AM PDT by PGalt
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