Posted on 08/23/2007 3:07:58 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
Views on abortion are basically binary: you're essentially either pro-life or pro-choice. And Americans are almost evenly divided. According to the Gallup Poll:
[W]hen the entire issue is distilled to the labels most commonly used on each side of the debate -- pro-choice vs. pro-life -- the public is split nearly down the middle.Under these circumstances, it would seem logically impossible for one of the positions to be inherently "more moderate" than the other. But consider this sentence from a Times article of today, Opponents Attack Giulianis New York Record:
Mr. Giulianis candidacy has always been considered somewhat unorthodox, given his more moderate views on social issues like abortion, which put him at odds with many in the Republican base.Are Rudy's positions on abortion and other social issues more liberal than those of the Republican base? No doubt. But more "moderate"? If a pro-life Democrat were running for president, it would make as much sense for the Times to say "Mr. Xs candidacy has always been considered somewhat unorthodox, given his more moderate views on social issues like abortion, putting him at odds with many in the Democratic base." But hey, the Times isn't in the sense-making business. It simply wants to portray its positions as the default, "moderate" ones.
Pro-choice the “moderate” position? Ping to Today show list.
This is no great surprise. The left always sees their radical view as being more widely accepted than that of the right. But the opposite is true.
If Rudy is the nominee, many pro-lifers will either stay home or vote 3rd party. That’s what happened in 2006 when conservatives were angry with Republicans, but the LIFE issue is an even stronger issue for pro-lifers.
I just can't get past the headline before I have problems.
What exactly is a moderate position on abortion?
Just moderately kill the baby?
And pro-choice slavery is more “moderate” than pro-abolition of slavery... in BIZARROWORLD.
I thought the same thing. When killing babies, it’s always best to do it “moderately”?
“If a pro-life Democrat were running for president, it would .............”
1) be the the 1960s.
2) signal that the end times are here.
3) provide an honorary starter for the National Championship Flying Pig Race.
4) give us somebody to speak up about that Russian judge at the Hell Ice Skating Championships.
5) foretell the coming Superbowl Champion Arizona Cardinals.
6) make for a really interesting race against President Ron Paul in 2012.
That has really worked out well for us, hasn’t it? That strategy almost cost us defeat in the WOT. It has led to non-stop Congressional investigations. It has put tax cuts in jeopardy. It has moved us closer to socialized medicine. It strengthened the open borders crowd. Conservativism has been weakened. I think giving the Dems Congress has also put them in a better position to capture the WH in ‘08. The Fairness Doctrine could also become a reality, as well. No, but angry Republicans got to feel better and stick it to Bush. And I actually once thought voting on the basis of one’s feelings was entirely a characteristic of the political left. How wrong I was.
I have a problem with abortion.
But I have more of a problem with a government peeping inside every womans womb.
No need to flame me, you’d be wasting your time.
Honestly, who are they fooling?
I was not one of the ones who stayed home, or voted 3rd party, in 2006. In fact, I begged people to vote for Republicans so we would not lose the Judiciary Committee.
However, if Rudy is the nominee, I will vote 3rd party. I cannot bear to pull the lever for a pro-partial-birth infanticide candidate, and no, I don’t trust him to pick originalist judges, either.
You either support murder or you don’t. It’s pretty much digital. I don’t see any room for compromise there.
“No need to flame me, youd be wasting your time.”
I presume that you don’t see anything wrong with murdering the baby the day after it’s born either.
Murder of helpless innocents the "moderate" position?
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