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To: robertpaulsen
I have watched your controversial postings relating to the Second Amendment of the United States, and I do not agree with you. I DO understand the logic you are attempting to convey, just as I DO understand the logic of the minority population of "gun-grabbers" of which I believe you are on their side. I looked up the Illinois Consitution and found this:
Sec. 22. Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
This tells me that the Government of the State of Illinois granted themselves the power to be a "police state" and deny the population their inalienable rights.

How do you read it?
Please note the tag line of a Patriot

38 posted on 08/24/2007 2:26:38 PM PDT by jcparks (Claire, I'm afraid its time)
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To: jcparks
"This tells me that the Government of the State of Illinois granted themselves the power to be a "police state" and deny the population their inalienable rights. How do you read it?"

Basically the same way. But the Government of the State of Illinois did not grant themselves the power -- the citizens of the state did that. Though I disagree with the wording, I'll defend the right of the citizens of each state to live the way they wish to live and codify that in their state constitution.

Oh, there's a big difference between the police power of a state and a police state.

65 posted on 08/24/2007 3:47:26 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: jcparks
Sec. 22. Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

To that must added this, bearing on the extent of "the police power"

The Sixth Illinois Constitutional Conventions Committee on Bill of Rights in their official commentary interpreted this provision in 1970 as a guarantee that “a citizen has the right to possess and make reasonable use of arms that law abiding citizens commonly employ for purposes of recreation or protection of person and property.” Any use of the police power, the Committee said, that “attempted to ban all possession or use of such arms, or laws that subjected possession or use of such arms to regulations or taxes so onerous that all possession or use was effectively banned, would be invalid.”

But of course Hizzonnar da Mayor, and his machine don't care about no steenking Constitution, state or Federal. They care about power.

72 posted on 08/24/2007 4:11:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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