Posted on 08/24/2007 4:13:12 PM PDT by wagglebee
Of course, many of the deathbots believe that the mentally ill are "worthless eaters" to begin with.
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Maybe someone should provide some “assistance” to those FEN people.
Well we know who his master is.
Not only that................Hemlock societies are all about killing OTHER people, never themselves.
And this isn't surprising either: a retired family therapist,and a retired college professor,
Such good liberals. Helpful, compassionate...........murderous.
Yeah. That’s what gets about the use of the word “tragedy” in this context. I rue the day when that word escaped from its little hutch in Literary Criticism and bounded into the world of murder with malice aforethought. The 9/11 “tragedy.” The Virginia Tech “tragedy.” The “tragedy” as the “family therapist” slips the hood over your head and turns on the gas.
And “compassionate.” They give “compassion” the whiff of the morgue.
‘close and loving’
How would the MSM know this?
Yeah. Tragedy has become a synonym for murder. While this death may be tragic, it’s also clearcut murder.
Lock ‘em up and throw away the key.
Why am I not surprised that you question the motives of the dead woman’s family and not those who killed her by preying on her mental condition.
In the Phoenix New Times story about this, it was noted that the victim’s hypochondria was so acute, that her doctor no longer wished to treat her, as she was in the habit of calling his office about 10 times a week.
I mention this for two reasons. The first being that this is an increasingly common behavior, and it is terribly expensive to our health care system; and second, that sooner, rather than later, health care providers are going to start including a “hypochondriac clause”, that if patients annoy the provider too many times with imaginary problems, they will be discontinued.
So what happens to hypochondriacs when they no longer get the medical attention they crave? It is unlikely that their imaginary health problems get better. In fact, many may persuade themselves that they are dying, and seek out suicide providers. And if a simple death pill is devised so that they may painlessly end their lives, there is a good chance that many will opt for it.
And they are just one group. I have seen what was called a top notch nursing home for the elderly, and was utterly horrified by what I saw. Narrow corridors filled almost exclusively with elderly women, all in wheelchairs, lined up side by side. Most had some degree of dementia, were sleeping, or were otherwise non-responsive. There was little chatter over a TV set none were looking at, blaring daytime television in the nurses station.
I can see why there is a new trend in nursing home care, in Mexico. If you are too frail to live, perhaps it is best to be surrounded by far more people caring for you then the few nurses in an American nursing home. And doing so in a place where it is not terribly expensive, you will not be drugged to the gills, and be allowed to die with dignity of natural causes, without having your remains desecrated first.
And they probably serve better food as well.
Weirdly enough, there is the third option that is being chosen by many people. It was discovered that the high cost of nursing homes in the US is such, that you could instead go on a permanent cruise on a ship. Living in luxury, eating good food, and with the ship doctor to look after you, and for about the same price as living in an institutional nursing home, eating pre-digested pablum, and staring at paint peel all day.
You do realize that nobody *chooses* to live in an expensive institutional nursing home. They end up there because they have no family at all or no family that is either able or willing to care for them and they can no longer live independantly because they can no longer walk, or dress or feed themselves due to disability or senility.
A cruise ship is not going to allow this type of passenger on permanent cruise status unless they have their own personal caregivers.
More properly, the cruise ship option is for retirement, rather than nursing homes:
http://www.snopes.com/travel/trap/retire.asp
And logically, if you are non-ambulatory with severe health problems, being on board a ship is not the best place to be.
However, I do like the Mexican option, and hope some larger assisted care corporation starts building lots of American quality accommodations down there, where service costs and pharmaceuticals are a lot cheaper. Unfortunately, the US is just too pricey for increasing numbers of our aging population who need such care.
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In fact, many may persuade themselves that they are dying, and seek out suicide providers. And if a simple death pill is devised so that they may painlessly end their lives, there is a good chance that many will opt for it.
Mental illness can be treated. We don't need to euthanise them or allow others to do so.
The DEA can’t stop or even significantly reduce illegal drugs coming into the US, so how can they possibly stop such a theoretical suicide pill?
While mental illness can be treated, it can only be done if it is both diagnosed, and the treatment is given. In this case, the woman had first professed suicidal thoughts when she was a child. She had been in mental institutions, and was released.
Her condition was half managed, yet degenerate. She sought out and found people who would kill her. How much easier would it have been for her to obtain a mere pill, if one like that existed?
I’m not saying it is either good or right or desirable, but is it even possible to stop such a thing?
I have known young people who seem to have a “suicide function” in their brains. Their lives are a long list of self destructive behaviors that are just amazing, and yet while they might contemplate it, they have never *directly* tried to kill themselves, nothing we would call a suicide attempt. But it is plainly obvious that they create whatever circumstances are needed to put themselves as lethal risk.
Not just bad judgment, but bizarre judgment, like jumping into the bear cage at the zoo, yet without any particular conscious reason for having done so.
Clearly this is mental illness, but otherwise they are fully functional, and do not even express crazy thoughts. How do you even diagnose that, much less treat it? Much of it could even be put down to “bad luck.”
I absolutely agree that euthanasia is just a euphemism for homicide. But if someone is bound and determined to kill themselves, I am perplexed at how they can be stopped, or even intervened with ahead of time to adjust their minds so they don’t want to kill themselves. In most cases, it is not obvious at all, even to their close family members.
How much easier would it have been for her to obtain a mere pill, if one like that existed?
People commit suicide everyday without your theoretical pill. Or anyone elses help.
Quite frankly, this sounds more like possession.
I have known young people who seem to have a “suicide function” in their brains.
Again, this sounds more like possession.
sad.bump.
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