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To: JohnHuang2

Maybe someone can verify something re Soc Sec for me.

If we have 20 million illegal colonists here and say they are all working using a soc sec # that is not theirs. Doesn’t the employer send in Soc Sec payments to the SS admin anyway, thus adding to the fund w/o an obligation to pay out later?


2 posted on 08/24/2007 11:23:22 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: crazyshrink

the system is set up to protect the perpetrator. they do NOTHING about it.

and the victims do NOT profit from the perpetrators earnings. YET our govt plans on giving them their earnings in benefits back to the perpetrators.

I have an ex relatives by marriage from Iran. They never worked a day in this country. Went to their Iranian embassy, and today live here in California, collect FULL benefits, and it is LEGAL.

Knew someone else whose son had his SS# stolen. B OF A will not turn the perpetrator over to anyone. They claim the perp is only using the SS# for a checking account and has done NO HARM to anyone.


4 posted on 08/24/2007 11:51:18 PM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.)
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To: crazyshrink

That’s a tough question. I think legally the SSA would have to pay the rightful owner of the number any monies reported. Given that the illegal alien broke the law by using said number they get nothing. JMHO (I know it won’t be that simple)


6 posted on 08/25/2007 12:24:55 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: crazyshrink

I think you are partially correct in why this illegal invasion is seen as a gold mine for the biggest holder of “I owe You” scheme on this planet. Now who exactly is benefiting from this cheap labor and not actually paying into the system? Lord only knows.

This whole mess benefits the cream at the top of all societal foundations ... the political... the economic... the educational... and last but certainly not least religious. All are taking their cut.


12 posted on 08/25/2007 1:24:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: crazyshrink
Doesn’t the employer send in Soc Sec payments to the SS admin anyway, thus adding to the fund w/o an obligation to pay out later?

I think a lot of these jobs pay cash and nothing is reported.

22 posted on 08/25/2007 6:22:43 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Were those magic grits?)
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To: crazyshrink

I would just love it if 15 or 20 people were using my SS# for a few years. Could you just imagine the size of my SS check?


26 posted on 08/25/2007 9:17:48 AM PDT by tiki
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To: crazyshrink
Doesn’t the employer send in Soc Sec payments to the SS admin anyway, thus adding to the fund w/o an obligation to pay out later?

Yes.

I've posted this several times on similar threads.

From the Washington Times, Mar. 29, 2007

......In 2004, "uncredited earnings" -- Social Security tax payments that can't be matched to valid Social Security numbers -- totaled $65 billion -- about 10 percent of the program's total income. The amount of uncredited earnings stood at $301.8 billion in 1999, but had grown to $585 billion by 2004, according to the Senior Citizens League report. Government officials say they don't know how many illegal aliens are paying into the system, but say illegal aliens are probably the "chief cause" of uncredited earnings.......

IMHO one of if not the primary reason why politicians refuse to stem the tide of illegals, $$$$.

28 posted on 08/25/2007 9:30:24 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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