Posted on 08/25/2007 9:12:19 AM PDT by Reeses
“Avoid dialing 911 for family problems.”
Well, I agree with that sentiment but threatening someone with a knife goes beyond “family problems”.
Calling 911 during a drunken argument(seemingly far more common) does not. I’m of the opinion that if the cops arrive and there is no danger to the caller, the caller gets to go downtown for the night. I don’t expect that to be embraced by everyone.
Inviting strangers with guns to calm your child is not always a wise option. It should be the last resort since the ending has become so predictable.
We now live with Blue Suicide just one phone call away. Scott Peterson didn't have to kill his wife to get the life insurance money, he just needed to work her up into an intense jealous rage then dial 911.
From this article, it sounds like they attempted to disarm the kid with nonlethal force. Unfortunately, that failed.
Like you said, sometimes it seems people are conditioned by action movies to think that police officers should be a combination of Bruce Lee and Annie Oakley, able to physically subdue or even shoot someone without doing any permanent damage. Pity the real world doesn't work that way.
DOn’t police receive training in the use of the baton anynore? The baton can be used quite effectively in disarming a knife wielding assailant without too much risk. When you consider the police have the advantage of armor and training, it seems unreasonable that their only recourse is to shoot someone.
DOn’t police receive training in the use of the baton anynore? The baton can be used quite effectively in disarming a knife wielding assailant without too much risk. When you consider the police have the advantage of armor and training, it seems unreasonable that their only recourse is to shoot someone.
No, they would be fools if they were not afraid.
You've just described my son's ex, with a tendency towards physical violence thrown in. She has assaulted my son (police report taken) and my wife (she didn't call the police but should have). My son's ex still believes the two of them are together (not gonna happen) and demands that he does not even speak to any other women for any reason, while she goes out and sleeps around with whomever. Her latest flame was just returned to prison after violating his parole by babysitting the 9 year old girl of a friend (guess why he was sent to prison). I'd like to say that my son is completely done with having to deal with this psycho (I'm a professional psychologist, so diagnosing her was not difficult), but unfortunately they created a son together. So, he, and we, have years of torture to endure from this person who has Borderline Personality Disorder. Sigh.
In this case I would have to disagree .Worried yes . Cautious most definitely but two trained officer should be able to take him down without resorting to lethal force
I avoid calling 911 because it never ever solves the problem and usually creates a much bigger problem........the Police are not to blame here. If you wave a weapon or anything that might be a weapon anywhere in the vicinity of anyone else who has a weapon it will end badly.
“When you consider the police have the advantage of armor and training, it seems unreasonable that their only recourse is to shoot someone.”
You’re right but you’re living in the past.
When being a cop was a Man’s job no man would have been too quick to use leathal force in such a situation. He knew his actions would be diseccted afterwards and he would’nt have wanted to come under criticisim.
I’ve seen cops trying like hell to disarm a knife wielding psychotic because they felt sorry for him and didn’t want to be too quick on the trigger.
That said if I am on the jury and the kid’s got a knife and he’s charging cops....too bad for him. You just can’t second guess the cops to such a degree. But once it was a mans job and such second guessing didn’t come up except in the case of the odd coward.
For the record I HAVE faced down bats, knives, razors and once a meat-cleaver. I am not a cop and I didn’t call cops.
Yeah, but then the property values will come back down to reality.
This was not an adult. The slain person was 16 — legally a child.
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And that means the knife he was wielding couldn’t have hurt anyone, right?
The 16 yo had grabbed his little brother as a hostage (in the back of the SUV or van, I forget which) and was threatening to kill him. The 16 yo was clearly having a psychotic episode, which makes him worthy of pity, but also very dangerous. I’ve followed this story from the beginning (living in the area) and unless there is more to the story that has not gotten into the paper, the deputies were not totally out of line. That said, perhaps with more training, the deputies could have found a better way to take him down than by killing him. (I don’t know about that, not being in law enforcement myself.) But it was clearly a very dangerous situation. The parents are in denial if they don’t realize that.
Or a 12GA beanbag hit - cops here use the beanbag and TASER before they pull their service weapons. When they do, you can count on someone going to the morgue.....
NO cop ever wants to get a domestic, regardless of the circumstances, trust me.
I can still see the female cop breaking down after she and her partner responded to one that I was involved in as a kid.
Domestic calls are always a mess.
What if you see someone breaking into your neighbor's home while he's not there?
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