Posted on 08/26/2007 8:05:12 AM PDT by McLynnan
You are lucky - bears and turkeys are not moose. Hitting a moose will total your car and possibly you also. Trust me! I’ve seen the results. Car and moose, both totaled.
I disagree. I wish he had taken a LOT more acid. Then maybe we wouldn't have to suffer all of those crappy, syrupy songs he wrote.
You really should Google Roundup + toxicity.
It’s the nastiest stuff ever unleashed upon the ignorant public.
A relative who has a greenhouse and ‘professional chemical permits’ had access to it long before it hit the store shelves and he used it to exterminate the Mutliflora bushes around our bog.
That was 10 years ago and we’re just now seeing an occasional frog or toad and we rarely see the salamanders that were formerly *everywhere*.
[or any of the small predators that survived by eating the aforementioned]
The peeping and croaking used to be deafening here on a summer night.
Not any more.
It’s as silent as a tomb, thanks to the kill-off of everything unfortunate enough to have contacted it and its residues.
It’s horrifying to discover that anyone is actually using it on -food- crops.
Fast cars and lying in the sun too?
Whitewater rafting, Mt climbing and motorcycles and all?
Smoking killed my dad, crippled my mom and killed my beloved aunt. Everyone should be free to live their life their own way, but when someone tries to say that tobacco is not addictive and harmful then they are a degree below NMBLA apologists in my book.
Blessings on all of your people
I sympathize with your losses. Everyone here knows someone who has died of cancer. But cocaine and meth and booze are not the same as tobacco. You said it yourself. You are an EX smoker. You can't smoke yourself to death tonight. But you can kill yourself or someone else with alcohol or cocaine tonight. It takes a long time to die from tobacco use, and even then believe it or not only a minority of people get sick from using it. Being fat is way worse than being a thin smoker.
True dat
Umm...Mr. President?!
Nugent has a steak of nanny-statism in him.Nanny-statism? Nope.
Nugent has a steak of nanny-statism in him.Nanny-statism? Nope.
>>>>* Paul McCartney took too much acid.
Most definitely.<<<<
He may have not taken enough. John Lennon wrote better songs, but imo, Harrison wrote the best.
Touche
I know a fair bit about toxicity of pesticides and xenobiotics in general. Roundup is about the most widely used herbicide on the market. Roundup toxicity to weeds is specific and very potent. Its toxicity to animals is quite low; actually about as toxic as table salt. I don’t mean to be flippant, but your attribution of the decline in amphibian population in your area to roundup is not a controlled experiment. Roundup (glyphosate) is not the culprit. Check the refereed literature and you will find that I am close to the mark here. I fear that many people are misled by the old media on this issue as well as most political issues that don’t favor liberalism.
I’d have bet a million dollars you’d quote the hackneyed “table salt” analogy.
Monsanto would *never* lie, suppress evidence or study results that would affect their sales, would they?
Toss a little Aspartame on your tofu, just for good measure because “studies” say it’s ‘safe’, too.
http://www.mitra.biz/blog/archives/2005/07/roundup_toxic_a.html
Case in point; I called the local lawn care company to ask what to do for the Chlorophyllum molybdites infestation in my yard and they said -nothing- would work except extreme excavation of the affected area.
*But*, he did suggest I try Roundup because although nothing else on this planet kills that crud, Roundup does put a hurt on it.
[and I’d already tried table salt, amongst about dozen other other “home remedy” suggestions and no, I did *not* resort to Roundup because the mushrooms are in the same yard where the dogs play]
So, as far your defense of Roundup goes, I give up.
Poison your world.
It’s your property.
Personally, I’m going to be calling the manufacturer of the only soy product I use and ask if Roundup ever touches their crop.
If it does, I’m done with them.
All pesticides are subject to EPA approval including toxicity testing. Your citation of a blog is not a refereed scientific journal. Most of the soybeans raised in the world are now the roundup resistant variety. You will be hard-pressed to find any that aren’t and idenfitying them is problematic. Roundup is not a complex molecule — glycine with a couple of phosphate groups. It ain’t that toxic for animals. It is specifically formulated to interfere with plant biochemistry. You are way off base on this. Check the scientific literature, not the old media or some envirowhack hack.
“mushrooms in the yard” — be careful with mushrooms, Amanita phalloides, even a single cap, is enough to destroy your dog’s liver.
Every food product on the shelf has a variety of chemicals, preservatives, extenders, etc. associated with it. Fruits and vegetables grown in foreign countries are often tainted with pesticides banned in the U.S. long ago. Finally, all natural does not equate with harmless. Think about tornadoes and hurricanes. Aflatoxin, a natural fungal metabolite, is among the most potent liver carcinogen on the planet and it is in your peanut butter.
Please try to put toxic issues in proper perspective. Every thing is toxic, even pure water. The dose is the issue that makes it toxic or safe.
Interesting that I see no mention of homosexuality or alcoholism in Ted's list.
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