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Working to preserve a historic dialect (Texas German)
Star-Telegram ^ | 8-26-07 | R.A. Dyer

Posted on 08/26/2007 2:04:22 PM PDT by Dysart

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To: Dysart

Try this one:

http://www.wurstfest.com/


41 posted on 08/26/2007 3:41:50 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

This thread is making me seriously homesick. The cultural varieties of the Hill Country is just one of the many things I love about the place. I’m going to have to go drink a Shiner Bock.
{{key the “London Homesick Blues...}}


42 posted on 08/26/2007 3:45:18 PM PDT by jdub
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To: jdub

Prince, that’s right. I was thinking duke. Prince Karl of Solms-Braunfels.

And I can’t belive I misspelled Gruene. I was thinking of the Groene family, because I always mispronounced *their* name, calling it “Green” like the town of Gruene. Yikes, outliving my memory cells here.


43 posted on 08/26/2007 3:46:12 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Dysart

How strange, life’s symmetries. I was just talking to a friend last night about his departed brother, a beloved teacher in the town of Munster, TX.


44 posted on 08/26/2007 3:47:10 PM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: jdub

Kosmo Spoetzl would thank you. So you wanna go home with the armadillo, good country music from Amarillo and Abilene?


45 posted on 08/26/2007 3:49:46 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Physicist
Throughout the entire 1800's for the most part. As best as I can tell most of them were German Catholics and there was heavy advertising in Catholic newsletters in Germany. If I had to guess I suspected it was a real estate thing. Some German had a bunch of land and needed a market. Just a guess.

There's one advertising flyer that's been floating around and it's a hoot. Firstly it said that Texas wasn't as hot in the summer as Minnesota. Uh huh.

Secondly there's this bit that struck me as so funny I had to cut and paste and still have saved:

"Texas is a democratic, free state, and there is no danger at all that fanatic, slippery hypocrites can take power and throw the state into servitude as has unfortunately has happened in many a state of the North. A German can without exception, freely and openly drink his glass of beer. He is welcomed everywhere and his work and services are properly appreciated. As a result of this, Texas can show more immigration, more German communities than most other states; indeed there are entire counties which are almost purely German."

Maybe not then...

For some reason, perhaps simply because of isolation, the German colonies in Texas didn't dilute as fast as they did in other areas of the US.

For whatever reason they held their culture visiting was my first experience of "culture shock" as a Baptist kid coming from a dry county in east Texas.

I think I remember those times with great fondness. Certainly as a bit hungover.

46 posted on 08/26/2007 3:51:13 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: Dysart

***Boas explains that because there were no skunks in their native country***

I can think of several but they shot or poisoned themselves in 1945.


47 posted on 08/26/2007 3:51:22 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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To: Rte66

friendliest people and the prettiest women you ever seen.....


48 posted on 08/26/2007 3:52:05 PM PDT by jdub
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To: Dysart

Everyone in the USA needs to speak English. Not Spanish, or Dutch, or German. English. The liberals love this cultural diversity thing, it divides people and makes them dependent upon the state.
Sorry if Texican-German has to die out, but it is for the good of the country. Now we just need to make Spanish die out.


49 posted on 08/26/2007 3:52:33 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: Rte66

Spaetzle? It is a kind of knudeln, made like noodles, but that is not important right now...


50 posted on 08/26/2007 3:54:07 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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Addendum - I wasn’t *too* far off. The Prince was the son of the Grand Duke of Braunfels.


51 posted on 08/26/2007 3:56:20 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: BuffaloJack
I disagree. First, these people do speak English. So do the Texas Enclaves of Norwegiens, Swedes, Austrians, Czechs, Alsatian French, and probably a few others. Its kinda cool to walk into a little restaurant and hear family members speaking German or whatever, then turn around and greet you in a voice no different than any other Texan.

This is culture that contributes to the overall Texas Culture, not detracts from it.

52 posted on 08/26/2007 3:59:03 PM PDT by jdub
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To: patton

No, I love spaetzle! And I make it from time to time to go with my goulash. You just rub dumpling dough through the big holes on a cheese grater! So simple. Love them all by themselves with a bunch of butter, too.

My PA Dutch grandfather used to make his own sauerkraut, even made his own graters for the cabbage, but I’ve not done that, lol.

No, Mr Spoetzl was the owner/founder of the Spoetzl Brewery in Shiner, TX, which brews Shiner Beer, bock, and others.


53 posted on 08/26/2007 4:00:31 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: jdub

*truer words were never spoken*


54 posted on 08/26/2007 4:01:24 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Dysart

The Germans settled here in the mid 1800’s, that’s pretty early for Texas. There were English speaking settlements in the eastern part of the state and I suppose Spanish speaking people in the south. I can see where 20% could be the German speaking settlers.


55 posted on 08/26/2007 4:03:29 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: blam

It’s easy to imagine it wasn’t easy being of German descent back in the day and makes you wonder if there will ever come a time when we are completely at ease when we learn our pilot for our transatlantic flight is none other than, “Ahmed.” Shouldn’t take more than 100-150 yrs or so.


56 posted on 08/26/2007 4:07:21 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Rte66

Yep, that link works. Thanks.


57 posted on 08/26/2007 4:07:52 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart
When you get to Luckenbach promise you won’t be disappointed. ;9)
58 posted on 08/26/2007 4:12:20 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Rte66
Would you share your dumpling recipe with a fellow freeper?
59 posted on 08/26/2007 4:14:42 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

LOL Why? I have a preference for the simple, the quaint, etc. Just don’t tell me Willie Nelson won’t be on his porch strumming his guitar. That would be devastating.


60 posted on 08/26/2007 4:20:06 PM PDT by Dysart
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