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Presidential Nominee Mitt Romney Promises to Legalize Abortion (article title)
MediaIndia.com ^ | August 24, 2007 | Kaiser Family Foundation

Posted on 08/26/2007 2:54:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Well let’s count them; we have God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, and the god of this world. That makes 4. That’s polytheistic by any definition.


41 posted on 08/26/2007 4:07:25 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k08yxu57NA&NR=1)
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To: jwh_Denver
Well let’s count them; we have God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, and the god of this world. That makes 4. That’s polytheistic by any definition.

Somebody has no clue to Christian theology.

42 posted on 08/26/2007 4:10:57 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It would be just as accurate to say:

Presidential Nominee Mitt Romney Promises to Criminalize Abortion

Actually it would be MORE accurate because abortion is already legal.

But that wouldn't make the dishonest point you're trying to fob off, would it?

It has been said that Satan is the father of all lies. You must have Beelzebub's propaganda department on speed dial.

43 posted on 08/26/2007 4:11:44 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Wolfie

A voice of reason...thank you.

What’s better:

1) Trying to pass a Constitutional amendment banning abortion and failing spectactularly

or

2) Overturning Roe v. Wade and sending the abortion issue back to states so they can decide

Which has a better chance of minimizing the number of abortions performed in this country?


44 posted on 08/26/2007 4:12:28 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Lady Heron

But which one do you speak for and is it the true Christian churhc among the 34,000 of them worldwide? Seventh Day Adventist, Quaker, Catholic, Unitarian, Protestant, Baptist, etc..?


45 posted on 08/26/2007 4:14:37 PM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“[Are you aware that Mitt is a mormon? Mormonism
invokes the name of Christ, but their beliefs
are quite different than Christianity - including
polytheism (belief in many gods), etc.?]
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Tell me about these “many Gods” and I will grade you on how right your get it.”

Thanks, but I pass on the grading.

Since every MALE mormon has the potential to become a god
of his own planet, that is, by definition, more than one
god. More than one god is polytheism. Christianity is
a monotheistic religion.

best,
ampu
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So, you agree there is only one God that we are responsible to on this planet!

46 posted on 08/26/2007 4:15:20 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: proudofthesouth

“It’s shoutin’ time in Heaven ...” thanks be to God, sister. Welcome to the family. [It’s a great song, BTW. Looking it up on the Net under “Roppers’ or the Gaither family reunion sing-ins.


47 posted on 08/26/2007 4:16:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: TheDon

If you’re going to try and pick off a newly Saved person to your cult of Mormonism, are you going to tell her about your religion’s founder rewriting the Bible to fabricate prophesies opf his coming ‘in these latter days’, or are you going to tell her about the more than thirty wives, some as young as 14 that Joe Smith bedded, some of whom were still married to other men?... I didn’t think so.


48 posted on 08/26/2007 4:19:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: Prokopton
A truly great and important post.

You are in perfect sync with the Reagan GOP pro-life platform since 1984.

1984 Republican Platform plank on abortion:

The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We therefore reaffirm our support for a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose the use of public revenues for abortion and will eliminate funding for organizations which advocate or support abortion. We commend the efforts of those individuals and religious and private organizations that are providing positive alternatives to abortion by meeting the physical, emotional, and financial needs of pregnant women and offering adoption services where needed.

We applaud President Reagan’s fine record of judicial appointments, and we reaffirm our support for the appointment of judges at all levels of the judiciary who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

1988

Since its inception, the Republican Party has stood for the worth of every person. On that ground, we support the pluralism and diversity that have been part of our country’s greatness. “Deep in our hearts, we do believe”: That the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We therefore reaffirm our support for a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose the use of public revenues for abortion and will eliminate funding for organizations which advocate or support abortion. We commend the efforts of those individuals and religious and private organizations that are providing positive alternatives to abortion by meeting the physical, emotional, and financial needs of pregnant women and offering adoption services where needed.

We applaud President Regan’s fine record of judicial appointments, and we reaffirm our support for the appointment of judges at all levels of the judiciary who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

1992

We believe the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We therefore reaffirm our support for a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We commend those who provide alternatives to abortion by meeting the needs of mothers and offering adoption services. We reaffirm our support for appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

1996

The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

Our goal is to ensure that women with problem pregnancies have the kind of support, material and otherwise, they need for themselves and for their babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose difficult situation we have only compassion. We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services. Republicans in Congress took the lead in expanding assistance both for the costs of adoption and for the continuing care of adoptive children with special needs. Bill Clinton vetoed our adoption tax credit the first time around - and opposed our efforts to remove racial barriers to adoption - before joining in this long overdue measure of support for adoptive families.

Worse than that, he vetoed the ban on partial-birth abortions, a procedure denounced by a committee of the American Medical Association and rightly branded as four-fifths infanticide. We applaud Bob Dole’s commitment to revoke the Clinton executive orders concerning abortion and to sign into law an end to partial-birth abortions.

2000

We say the unborn child has a fundamental right to life. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation that the 14th Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect the sanctity of innocent human life.

Alternatives like adoption, instead of punitive action Our goal is to ensure that women with problem pregnancies have the kind of support, material and otherwise, they need for themselves and for their babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose difficult situation we have only compassion. We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services.

2004

We must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the 14th Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

49 posted on 08/26/2007 4:24:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: MHGinTN

That’s just anti-mormon propaganda / talking points (garbage, even low-end of the garbage).

By their fruits you shall now them. The LDS church has the greatest fruits of any CHRISTIAN or NON-CHRISTIAN church in the world.. you should discover them.


51 posted on 08/26/2007 4:28:08 PM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Count of Monte Logan

That’s not the issue, Mormon. You stand up a false premise and beg to have someone address your false syllogism so you can argue. You are in an institutional organization. The True Church is spiritual in reality, built by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit of God, the same Spirit whom raised Jesus from the dead and renews a faither through the renewing of their mind in Christ. Mormonism (the belief system, not the institutional organization) is a cult which believes the individual must work their way to worthiness of Salvation. That is anathema to what God declares in the Bible.


52 posted on 08/26/2007 4:31:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: broncobilly
So we can better understand your posts... If you are so venomously anti-Romney

I'm "venomously" against all liberals. They're destroying the greatest country on earth, to the detriment of my posterity.

...tell us what candidate you are for.

No one currently in the race. I'm keeping my powder dry and working against liberals like Romney.

And if you are so venomously anti-Mormon, tell us what you believe. Don’t hide in the dark and expect us to take you seriously.

Pretty big "if" there, buddy. If you have some proof of "anti-Mormon venom" by me, provide it. If you can't provide it, which I know is the case, you're on a par with Jesse Jackson in his dealings with corporate America.

I want to know what candidate and what religion inspires such venomous posts.

I'm a Christian, a father and husband, an American, and a constitutionalist republican conservative. In that order. Got a problem with that?

53 posted on 08/26/2007 4:32:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Count of Monte Logan
These fruits you speak of, are those the things you fruit inspectors are always looking to emulate? ‘Cause Buddhist and Ba’hais are just as worthy by their fruits. You miss the reason for Christ in the faither, the hope of Glory.
54 posted on 08/26/2007 4:33:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: Chunga
The Supreme Court does not need to find for a "right to life" in order to overturn Roe. It merely needs to decide that the Blackmun Court overreached its bounds by holding that states may not prohibit abortion in any way they see fit.

The Court found that there is a Constitutionally protected right to privacy. To merely "overturn" Roe the Court would have to find that this is not true. This the Court will never do. The court will have to find that, regardless of the Constitutionally protected right to privacy, other rights have preeminence. This is how judicial decisions are made that disagree with previous decisions. There will be no decision that states that the Blackmun Court "overreached it's bounds". There will be no decision that states that the abortion issue is to be determined only by the states. Supreme Court decisions are not written like that. A decision might be made that alters the findings in Roe, but it will be based on Constitutionally protected rights, as Roe was, not on states rights.

55 posted on 08/26/2007 4:34:01 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: MHGinTN
as young as 14
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nice use of groddy words to cover up misdirections. You sound like a liberal.

My Great-great-greatgramdmother was married at 15, to an older man, and they were not “Mormons”. Does that make my Great- great-greatgrandfather a dirty old man, or just normal for his time.

56 posted on 08/26/2007 4:34:44 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: MHGinTN

I’m just stating fact. There are 34,000 Christian churches with a whole range of different beliefs on every doctrins.

Which one do you believe in, or do you belong to any church?
If not, then those who do, might consider you misguided at best.


57 posted on 08/26/2007 4:35:31 PM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: MHGinTN
as young as 14
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nice use of groddy words to cover up misdirections. You sound like a liberal.

My Great-great-greatgramdmother was married at 15, to an older man, and they were not “Mormons”. Does that make my Great- great-greatgrandfather a dirty old man, or just normal for his time.

58 posted on 08/26/2007 4:35:43 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: Count of Monte Logan
So your talking point is that the facts about Smith and his cult are not true! Well, here's a start of the evidence, the Joe Smith thousands of words added translation of the Bible. After you read some of that evidence at an LDS website, we'll post the list of women Smith 'married', highlighting the ones still married to other alive men when Smith 'married' them and bedded them: http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents

Notice in particular the eight hundred plus words Joe Smith added to chapter 50 of the Book of Genesis, where he fabricated prophecy of himself! Bwaahhahahaha, just talking points, straight from LDS sites.

59 posted on 08/26/2007 4:38:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: fproy2222

I’ll bet your relative wasn’t already married to another man though ... bwahahaha, you mormons will swallow anything to protect your false prophet.


60 posted on 08/26/2007 4:39:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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