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To: Chunga
State your case or stop wasting words and time

Although your declaration, without explanation, was hardly worthy of a lengthy reply, I will acquiesce.

As far as overturning Roe goes, the Court does not write opinions merely stating that a previous decision was wrong and leave it at that.

If SCOTUS writes a decision contrary to Roe, it will not be a simple “overturning” of the previous decision that would then leave the legality of abortion question status quo ante. The SCOTUS will not find that there is no right to privacy, the right the Roe decision was based on. If SCOTUS decides against abortion it will most likely find that the enumerated right to life trumps the unenumerated right to privacy when they are in conflict. If they find there is a “right to life”, they will most certainly find that it is a fundamental right protected by the U.S. Constitution. If it is a Constitutionally protected right they will not allow the states, except perhaps in limited circumstances, to disparage this right by the enactment of state laws.

In other words, they will not say that is OK for a state to enact laws allowing abortion after they have found the right to life to be a fundamental, Constitutionally protected, right. There may be exceptions, depending on how broadly they define any right to life, that would allow states to regulate certain aspects of abortion, but they would have to be consistent with their interpretation of the right to life.

31 posted on 08/26/2007 3:50:07 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton
The Supreme Court does not need to find for a "right to life" in order to overturn Roe. It merely needs to decide that the Blackmun Court overreached its bounds by holding that states may not prohibit abortion in any way they see fit.

Even some liberal Constitutional proponents agree Roe vs. Wade is bad law and have called for it to be overturned based on overreach.

This argument is a strong one and is easily explained to idiotic liberals who believe abortion rights are a virtue.

37 posted on 08/26/2007 4:01:27 PM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Prokopton
A truly great and important post.

You are in perfect sync with the Reagan GOP pro-life platform since 1984.

1984 Republican Platform plank on abortion:

The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We therefore reaffirm our support for a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose the use of public revenues for abortion and will eliminate funding for organizations which advocate or support abortion. We commend the efforts of those individuals and religious and private organizations that are providing positive alternatives to abortion by meeting the physical, emotional, and financial needs of pregnant women and offering adoption services where needed.

We applaud President Reagan’s fine record of judicial appointments, and we reaffirm our support for the appointment of judges at all levels of the judiciary who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

1988

Since its inception, the Republican Party has stood for the worth of every person. On that ground, we support the pluralism and diversity that have been part of our country’s greatness. “Deep in our hearts, we do believe”: That the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We therefore reaffirm our support for a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose the use of public revenues for abortion and will eliminate funding for organizations which advocate or support abortion. We commend the efforts of those individuals and religious and private organizations that are providing positive alternatives to abortion by meeting the physical, emotional, and financial needs of pregnant women and offering adoption services where needed.

We applaud President Regan’s fine record of judicial appointments, and we reaffirm our support for the appointment of judges at all levels of the judiciary who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

1992

We believe the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We therefore reaffirm our support for a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We commend those who provide alternatives to abortion by meeting the needs of mothers and offering adoption services. We reaffirm our support for appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

1996

The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

Our goal is to ensure that women with problem pregnancies have the kind of support, material and otherwise, they need for themselves and for their babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose difficult situation we have only compassion. We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services. Republicans in Congress took the lead in expanding assistance both for the costs of adoption and for the continuing care of adoptive children with special needs. Bill Clinton vetoed our adoption tax credit the first time around - and opposed our efforts to remove racial barriers to adoption - before joining in this long overdue measure of support for adoptive families.

Worse than that, he vetoed the ban on partial-birth abortions, a procedure denounced by a committee of the American Medical Association and rightly branded as four-fifths infanticide. We applaud Bob Dole’s commitment to revoke the Clinton executive orders concerning abortion and to sign into law an end to partial-birth abortions.

2000

We say the unborn child has a fundamental right to life. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation that the 14th Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect the sanctity of innocent human life.

Alternatives like adoption, instead of punitive action Our goal is to ensure that women with problem pregnancies have the kind of support, material and otherwise, they need for themselves and for their babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose difficult situation we have only compassion. We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services.

2004

We must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the 14th Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

49 posted on 08/26/2007 4:24:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Prokopton; Reagan Man; Gelato; Waywardson; Broadside; Delphinium; Taxman; Jim Robinson; ...
Romney: Let states decide abortion laws, no Human Life Amendment - Youtube
65 posted on 08/26/2007 4:46:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Prokopton

The video I posted above makes me want to throw up.


67 posted on 08/26/2007 4:48:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Prokopton

here is the complete video that EV did not post!

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3511448&page=2

The interview with Geo. Stephanopoulos
Romney earlier this month in an interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos said he supports a constitutional amendment that would ban abortion nationwide. According to the Post, the “two very different statements” reflect a “challenge” for Romney as he attempts to be a “champion of the antiabortion movement”.

click on the Video Titled “Romney’s view Abortion” for the week of Aug 19th

on this link now is today Aug 26 inerview but when you look you see last weeks interview
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3511448&page=2


71 posted on 08/26/2007 4:58:59 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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