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Unknown to VA Tech, Cho Had a Disorder
Washington Post ^ | 8/27/07 | brigid Schulte

Posted on 08/27/2007 2:38:54 AM PDT by Timeout

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To: Timeout
No. I'm calling the authors liars.  The authors are stating that it's common for professors at VT to call on someone they know won't answer them....and then get angry about it.  Huh?  Are they hiring 5 year-olds at Virginia Tech?

And then the proximity implication is that students would taunt him in the classes....multiple classes.  What college do you know of where that would be tolerated in one class....much less several classes.

Nothing about that sentence is believable.  If it were the truth then Virginia Tech is not a professional college and needs to have a bunch of people fired.  

But, again, I don't believe it.  I think the authors are making it up or, at the very least, printing irresponsible, unproven accusations to further the "gotcha" value of the article.

21 posted on 08/27/2007 7:00:44 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Timeout

Well...I have a little reservation about the point of the article. We can never identify and isolate all the unstable people in society. Sure, it’s nice to try, but not too effective. What we can do is allow people to protect themselves from the unstable by not disarming the good guys.


22 posted on 08/27/2007 7:16:49 AM PDT by jammer
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To: Timeout

This article makes Cho’s family look worse and worse. They knew their boy was severely screwed up and rather than take responsibility and help him themselves they dumped him on society (and the government) while withholding critical information. Maybe Cho’s victims should sue Cho’s family for failing to warn VaTech that Cho was such a head case.


23 posted on 08/27/2007 7:24:53 AM PDT by rogue yam
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I would give that more weight if we didn’t know there were high school officials, psychiatrists, hospital personnel, a judge and countless others who knew how sick he was. But none of them rocked the politically-correct boat. Apparently, none even considered notifying the university.

But they all “did their jobs”!


24 posted on 08/27/2007 8:06:43 AM PDT by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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Hmm ~ I think here in Virginia he would have been tried as an adult and it would be part of the public record.

On the other hand, commitment is a judicial process well grounded in the law. Apparantly the school (VA Tech) asked a judge to take action and the judge punted.

It's still a public record.

At the same time the school VIOLATED current national building codes regarding the type and quality of doors and door opening/locking mechanisms allowed at main entrances of public access buildings, as well as violating the current building code regarding such devices at main hallways and classrooms.

That's what gave Cho the opportunity to continue killing students long after the cops had arrived ~ they couldn't get into the builidng ~ the main doors had been locked with a simple chain!

The failure of the judge to act properly, and the inability of Cho's highschool to notify VA Tech in no way relieve the administration and government board of their responsibility in this tragedy.

They must all be punished.

We have waited entirely too long for a round of mass resignations with this crowd of Democrat party syncophants.

25 posted on 08/27/2007 11:12:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Apparently, none even considered notifying the university.

It is my understanding that it would have been illegal for them to have done so, and Cho's parents knew or should have known this. He was their son. They could have asked for help. They didn't and dozens died.

26 posted on 08/27/2007 11:13:20 AM PDT by rogue yam
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What it means is your course probably wasn’t terribly critical to anyone beyond meeting requirements for a degree.


27 posted on 08/27/2007 11:50:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Timeout

I think that applied to Highschool and earlier school experiences ~


28 posted on 08/27/2007 11:52:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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What it means is your course probably wasn’t terribly critical to anyone beyond meeting requirements for a degree.

Alas, the Americans with Disabilities Act requires such accomodations in every course, critical or otherwise.

29 posted on 08/27/2007 12:13:03 PM PDT by Logophile
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Oops! Make that accommodations.
30 posted on 08/27/2007 12:14:06 PM PDT by Logophile
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Still, you gave us a "particular" and lept to a "generality" that may or may not be true. Many undergraduate courses are "filler".

The Americans With Disabilities Act requires that you first be disabled to take advantage of it.

Let's give you an example of a "disability" ~ my top typing speed was 238 WPM. Not near there today ~ maybe 120 to 140 tops ~ age kills ~ but I always thought it was manifestly unfair to REQUIRE that final exams had to be given with blue books that required pen and ink.

As far as I was concerned those 1 hour tests should have been reduced to 15 minutes and everyone should be required to type their little statements/answers.

Obviously those who couldn't type would have been quite handicapped compared to me. Didn't bother me a bit. Unfortunately, though, the university administration was mired in the 1st century and wouldn't budge.

The disabilities act would have continued to give them 37.5 minutes and I would have been limited to 15 minutes.

Today, though, those guys are still handicapped and lucky enough to be allowed to even read FreeRepublic while you and I can be masters of the universe simply because we can type.

31 posted on 08/27/2007 12:52:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Timeout

A little article I submitted elsewhere:

Three Ways To Improve Campus Security

Regardless of who is to blame and for what, VT reminds us that in an age of terrorist threat it is only common sense to improve awareness in the public sphere.

Here are three easy, effective, and non-invasive ways of improving campus security:

1) EMERGENCY WARNING ALARMS: In Iraq, American bases are equipped with simple emergency warning sirens and loudspeakers that provide 100 percent coverage throughout the base. If you are awake you’ll heard it (and usually you’ll be awakened from your sound sleep, given the volume).

CODE RED is a simple but unique sound that means “Go to a safe location; heighten your awareness; stand by for further information.” After anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes comes either a reiteration of the CODE RED siren or the unique CODE YELLOW alarm.

CODE YELLOW is a second unique sound that means the threat has been reduced, but only designated and critical personnel may move about freely, while others are to stay in their present (presumably safer) locations. Usually CODE YELLOW includes some kind of verbal instruction.

CODE GREEN or ALL CLEAR means the threat has been addressed and personnel may resume their normal duties and locations.

This system is simple, affordable and effective in keeping people out of harm’s way during actual or potential emergencies.

2) EMERGENCY ALERTING: The counties of Northern Virginia and indeed all of Metro DC participate in a regional emergency alerting system via the Roam Secure Alert Network.

Best described by the participating counties themselves, the system is “an emergency communication system used by governments, emergency management agencies and first responders to send emergency alerts, notifications and updates to your cell phone, pager, Blackberry, PDA and/or e-mail account.”

It goes on to say that “In the event of an emergency, such as a terrorist attack or severe weather incident, Arlington County emergency management personnel will send important alerts, updates and instructions right to your cell phone or mobile device using your device’s text message (SMS) feature, and/or to your e-mail account(s).”

The system provides nearly realtime information and updates, and is incredibly easy for even the most ardent technophobe to setup and use.

Anyone interested should read the Arlington County pages at www.arlingtonalert.com, or check Roam’s own pages at www.roamsecure.net.

3) AWARENESS AND SELF-DEFENSE TRAINING: Undoubtedly the most controversial aspect of campus security, Awareness and Self-defense Training can be anything from a one-hour mandatory seminar on campus security, to various and optional courses on personal self-defense, and perhaps a campus monitoring program similar to Neighborhood Watch.

There is no need to convert the college campus into a fortress. But it is necessary to improve alerting and awareness, and to admit that these measures will unfortunately be needed at some college campus sometime in the future.


32 posted on 08/28/2007 5:15:09 AM PDT by angkor
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