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1 posted on 08/28/2007 7:26:17 PM PDT by monomaniac
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You know, I went to Catholic School for 12 years and we never went through this nonsense. In Grade School (7th & 8th) our teachers made us read books dealing with very unchristian themes, the three billion names of God, the lottery, one story involved an affair, a murder and a murder suicide.

Really, the same idiots who think Harry Potter is responsible for people leaving the faith are probably thinking that believing in evolution will cause people to leave the faith as well.


2 posted on 08/28/2007 7:38:05 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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The Pope is not much for hermaneutics.

He should have gone to UVA English grad school in the 70s. Those guys could interpret any novel as a Christian allegory.

I was willing to go along with Tom Jones, but kind of drew the line at Humphrey Clinker.


3 posted on 08/28/2007 7:42:21 PM PDT by proxy_user
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I didn’t read any of the Harry Potter books or any of the Lord of the Rings books but I saw a few movies of each. Seems like both were steeped in the fantasy/magic/sorcery genre about the same. But everybody loves LOTR and say HP is the spawn of satan. I didn’t care for either that much so I don’t have a dog in this fight but it just seemed strange.


4 posted on 08/28/2007 7:49:06 PM PDT by joebuck
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And here I thought that Western culture was more modern than Islamic ideals of the 1400’s ..... silly me .....


5 posted on 08/28/2007 8:14:29 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
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I certainly cannot see gnosticism in terms of dualism in the Potter novels. (The quote from the Vatican exorcist mentioning gnosticism was done in broad strokes, citing several movies together.) If there is anything in Potter to suggest that the body is bad and only the spirit is good, I missed it. Secondly, in Rowling’s universe, magical powers are a gift - the characters do not become magical through pursuit of the occult, they are simply born that way. The source of the gift is not addressed, but like other gifts in the real world, is sometime the result of heredity, and sometimes, in the case of Muggle born, the proximate cause is entirely a mystery. Also, while most of the muggle characters are admittedly one dimensional, a theme of the novels is one of non-interference and an obligation to protect the muggles from the forces of Voldemort. Those who are tempted by the power, even the good like Dumbledore, sow the seeds of their own downfall. Lastly, Potter learns over the course of the novels that it is selflessness, sacrifice and acceptance that are the key to grace.

I see many allegories within the Potter series that are absolutely consistent with Christian theology. I’ve read O’Brien’s book on children’s literature and I do not see the topsy turvey role reversal that he cites applying in the case of Rowling. From the commentary cited the Pope’s criticism seems more like a caution - certainly new agers can find things in the Potter series to reinforce their errors, but Christians can also find much in Potter to reinforce Christian virtues.

I do not know Rowling’s religious views, but I sense that God is working on her.


6 posted on 08/28/2007 9:32:17 PM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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