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Va. Republican Bill Would Bar Illegal Immigrants From College
Washington Post ^ | August 30, 2007 | Tim Craig

Posted on 08/30/2007 7:06:00 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

RICHMOND -- Virginia Republicans announced legislation Wednesday that would prohibit public colleges and universities from accepting illegal immigrants even if they attended a public high school and were brought to the United States at an early age by their parents.

GOP leaders, who control both houses of the legislature, suggested that some Virginia residents are being denied access to college because too many illegal immigrants are taking available slots.

"If a legal Virginia resident is applying to schools, should they be admitted? Or should that slot be set aside for someone who has arrived here illegally?" asked James K. "Jay" O'Brien Jr. (R-Fairfax), the sponsor of the proposal.

The Republican proposal would also require city and county jails to check a defendant's immigration status and to have at least one person on duty who has been certified by the federal government to detain illegal immigrants until deportation proceedings. It would also routinely deny bail for illegal immigrants charged in a crime and suspend the business licenses of anyone convicted of hiring illegal immigrants.

All 140 seats in the General Assembly are on the ballot this fall...

Claire Guthrie Gastanaga, a lobbyist for immigrant organizations, said the GOP "is taking advantage of a public misconception about the facts" and "exploiting fear and ignorance."...

But the issue of denying a public college education to an illegal immigrant will probably be controversial...Under the GOP proposal, a public college such as Virginia Tech or George Mason University would have to prove an applicant is a legal resident or has a valid student visa...GOP leaders offered statistics showing that 36 percent of applicants to a four-year public college in Virginia were rejected last year....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; bobmcdonnell; gop; highereducation; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; vageneralassembly
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A little late, but better late than never. Now Virginians will see exactly who represents them, who puts American citizens first, and who represents illegals.
1 posted on 08/30/2007 7:06:02 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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It shouldn't be controversial. I'd like to see our leaders put Americans FIRST. We aren't asking for the moon.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 08/30/2007 7:08:39 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 3AngelaD

no illegals in college, probably so they can have more illegal truck drivers*


3 posted on 08/30/2007 7:10:00 AM PDT by RolandBurnam (soylent brown is poop)
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To: 3AngelaD
suspend the business licenses of anyone convicted of hiring illegal immigrants.

I like this part of the bill.

4 posted on 08/30/2007 7:10:28 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: 3AngelaD

I want to remember November 2007 as the election where Virginia gave illegals the boot.


5 posted on 08/30/2007 7:13:45 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Imagine that, the criminal aliens thought paying taxes in support of higher education was not required for extracting money from those who do. Until the RAT party extends the right to vote to them, it ain’t gonna happen. When billary becomes president then the change in hand-out recipients will be inclusive of criminal aliens. Get ready folks, Hillary will be the next president and the old media is gonna make it happen, like it or not.


6 posted on 08/30/2007 7:17:42 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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But the issue of denying a public college education to an illegal immigrant will probably be controversial

To whom?

Seriously, ask ten people on the street, and at least nine of them will agree that illegal aliens should not be admitted to public colleges.

How the elites think this is "controversial" shows how out of touch they are.

7 posted on 08/30/2007 7:17:50 AM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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This will be controversial, but if these illegals have been here since childhood and have attended US schools through high school, they are not going anywhere else.

They are going to remain here and be our newest citizens (or just stay here as illegals).

If you want these people to ASSIMILATE and BECOME AMERICANS,
who speak English and lose their ties to other countries, then don’t blanch at spending for the education which makes assimilation possible.

Otherwise, you’re going to end up with a Quebec situation,
which benefits nobody.

(time to duck...)


8 posted on 08/30/2007 7:29:58 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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How the elites think this is "controversial" shows how out of touch they are.

The elites have different opinions and goals than the little people on immigration, so they declare the majority opinion to be "controversial" to try to scare people into not talking about it.

9 posted on 08/30/2007 7:30:48 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: 3AngelaD
BTW, from this link....

States Grapple With In-State Tuition for Illegal Immigrants

...the IIRIRA of 1996 bars "public colleges from favoring undocumented students by offering them in-state tuition rates and not extending that offer to U.S. citizens."

10 posted on 08/30/2007 7:33:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Their “assimilatation” starts when their family goes back across the border and they get in line with everyone else. That is the only acceptable path to assimilation.


11 posted on 08/30/2007 7:37:14 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: CondorFlight

You better duck. Your argument is, in essence, lay back and enjoy it. Meanwhile, American citizen children of American citizens are to be denied spots at university so we can assimilate the illegals. Already, state schools in Virginia are having to turn down more than 25,000 LEGAL students a year. You want to make that worse. Oh, and we already have a Quebec situation. See Prince William County. American citizens and their children have a RIGHT to come first, and and right not to have their interests come second to the interests of illegals. Unless you think we ought to be paying for a college education for the entire planet, you need to rethink this.


12 posted on 08/30/2007 7:39:30 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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Seriously, ask ten people on the street, and at least nine of them will agree that illegal aliens should not be admitted to public colleges.

I wish. This morning's radio show (WMAL am 630, leaning conservative) interviewed several Northern Virginians (admittedly the bluest part of the state) and most of them gave comments like "Oooh, that's kinda harsh!" and "I don't think that's fair!". One or two said basically "Good!".

13 posted on 08/30/2007 7:40:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?)
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To: 3AngelaD

Not better late than never. Boxing Gov. Kaine (D) into a corner to sign and incur wrath of Dem electorate or veto and incure the wrath of the Rep electorate could be quite enjoyable.


14 posted on 08/30/2007 7:42:25 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: 3AngelaD
The blanket denial of bail ultimately may be ruled to be invalid under the U.S. and Virginia Constitutions, but a judge certainly could deny bail on the basis of his determination that the defendant is a flight risk.

Immigration-related bonds already are a "growth industry" for both surety entities and private recovery agents.

I received some "paper" two years ago from a large Texas bail bonding company re: five illegals who had jumped bail. I unfortunately had to decline the contract because at the time I didn't know well enough anyone who could speak various "South-of-the-border" Spanish to help me to pretext a meeting that would have led to the apprehension of the five amigos. However, that has been remedied....

15 posted on 08/30/2007 7:43:42 AM PDT by tracer
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Great bill and nothing controversial about it. Illegal aliens have no business to being in this country, absolutely not the right to attend school and get welfare. A frightening part is them holding sensitive jobs or infiltrating the military.
16 posted on 08/30/2007 7:44:44 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: 3AngelaD

Virginia’s Lt. Governor is a no-nonsense, true Republican who has his eye on the Governor’s mansion come election time in Old Virginny...


17 posted on 08/30/2007 7:46:07 AM PDT by tracer
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don’t blanch at spending for the education which makes assimilation possible.

Virginians have been soaked enough for years and haven't seen squat. Drive through Manassas sometime. Don't blanch when this November the illegals go scurrying out of this state like roaches from a tenement fire.
18 posted on 08/30/2007 7:49:06 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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prohibit public colleges and universities from accepting illegal immigrants even if they attended a public high school

It doesn't ban them; it just means that the illegal has to pay the higher rate for non-US citizens, and has to get a student visa.

19 posted on 08/30/2007 8:28:55 AM PDT by ikka
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To: tracer
I used to do some bail recovery work but here in the Peoples Republic of IL it's a very difficult way to make a living.

L

20 posted on 08/30/2007 8:40:20 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox and ebola.)
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