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Nerve Gas Scare at U.N. Headquarters
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Posted on 08/30/2007 9:26:05 AM PDT by farlander

Edited on 08/30/2007 9:46:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

United Nations weapons inspectors discovered six to eight vials of a dangerous nerve gas, phosgene, as they were cleaning out offices at a U.N. building in New York this morning, federal authorities tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com.

The federal authorities said the office, in a U.N. building near headquarters, was being evacuated and the White House had been notified at 10 a.m.

New York police and fire officials reported to the scene around 12:15 this afternoon.

A U.N. spokesperson said a statement would be issued shortly.

Authorities said the phosgene was believed to have been discovered in Iraq and manufactured prior to 1991.

Former U.N. weapons inspectors told ABCNews.com that vials of phosgene had also been used by inspectors in Iraq to help calibrate air sampling instruments.


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1 posted on 08/30/2007 9:26:06 AM PDT by farlander
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To: farlander

The old Iraq offices?


2 posted on 08/30/2007 9:27:17 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: farlander

The old Iraq offices?


3 posted on 08/30/2007 9:27:29 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: farlander

Did Hans Brix find them?


4 posted on 08/30/2007 9:28:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: farlander

Let’s see. Office equipment:
pencils
yellow legal tablets
shredder
phosgene
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5 posted on 08/30/2007 9:28:18 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: farlander

Nothing on the cable news stations. I’ve got the local ABC affiliate on now and haven’t heard anything.


6 posted on 08/30/2007 9:29:41 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: farlander

Well if they couldn’t find it in Iraq how are we suppose to believe they found it in their own building.


7 posted on 08/30/2007 9:30:11 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: farlander
weapons inspectors discovered six to eight vials of a dangerous nerve gas, phosgene

Phosgene isn't a nerve gas. It works by combining with water in your lungs and forming hydrochloric acid which damages lung tissue. It does not work on neurotransmitter chemicals.

8 posted on 08/30/2007 9:30:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: farlander

I’m sure there’s a perfectly logical explanation for why someone had vials of nerve gas in his/her office.


9 posted on 08/30/2007 9:30:36 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (You know a liberal has lost the argument when he calls you a Nazi.)
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To: farlander

I once worked in a chemical plant that made that stuff for industrial use.


10 posted on 08/30/2007 9:31:58 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: kinoxi

Yep CNBC isn’t reporting anything ye teither but the market sold of in a hurry. Bouncing back now.


11 posted on 08/30/2007 9:32:32 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: farlander

Richard Jewell’s final revenge.


12 posted on 08/30/2007 9:32:35 AM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not mutually exclusive.)
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To: farlander
Maybe they're just trying to get buff.


13 posted on 08/30/2007 9:33:40 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: AliVeritas; holdonnow; STARWISE

Why isn’t this all over the cable stations?

Seems a newsworthy tidbit of info..


14 posted on 08/30/2007 9:36:11 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: farlander

Had to look the stuff up. Sounds VERY common for industrial purposes meaning the stuff could have come from anywhere.


15 posted on 08/30/2007 9:36:39 AM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: KarlInOhio
Well you know, the press can’t be bothered with specifics. They think chemical weapons and nerve gas are interchangeable terms.
16 posted on 08/30/2007 9:36:44 AM PDT by brothers4thID (FDT: "Every notice that while our problems are getting bigger, our politicians are getting smaller?")
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To: KarlInOhio

Bingo. When I worked in swimming pool supplies, we were warned never to mix pool chlorine with pool acid because it would create mustard gas. Phosgene has a similar composition. Both mustard gas and phosgene were used in WWI.


17 posted on 08/30/2007 9:36:52 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: farlander

Maybe it’s just an exterminator ... I hear the United Nothings has a RAT infestation


18 posted on 08/30/2007 9:37:16 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72-73 ... USS Midway CVA-41 VA-93 Blue Blazers)
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To: farlander

And why were weapons inspectors cleaning out offices?


19 posted on 08/30/2007 9:37:38 AM PDT by brothers4thID (FDT: "Every notice that while our problems are getting bigger, our politicians are getting smaller?")
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To: farlander

Update from abcnews.com:
The federal authorities said the office, in a U.N. building near headquarters, was being evacuated and the White House had been notified at 10 a.m.

New York police and fire officials reported to the scene around 12:15 this afternoon.

A U.N. spokesperson said a statement would be issued shortly.

Authorities said the phosgene was believed to have been discovered in Iraq and manufactured prior to 1991.

Former U.N. weapons inspectors told ABCNews.com that vials of phosgene had also been used by inspectors in Iraq to help calibrate air sampling instruments.

The former inspectors said the remaining vials were supposed to have been destroyed.

“If it is properly sealed, it should not pose much of a threat unless it is dropped,” said former New York City emergency services director Jerry Hauer, an ABC News consultant.

“They need to get it out of there and put it in a safe canister,” Hauer said. “It shows immense stupidity to have that kind of thing sitting around as a souvenir.”


20 posted on 08/30/2007 9:42:57 AM PDT by brothers4thID (FDT: "Every notice that while our problems are getting bigger, our politicians are getting smaller?")
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To: usmcobra
Well if they couldn’t find it in Iraq how are we suppose to believe they found it in their own building.

I think you meant to ask the opposite question:

If they couldn't find them in their own building, how could we expect them to find them in Iraq?

21 posted on 08/30/2007 9:43:24 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: Sloth

Careful, some poster named Buffalo Head is sending FReep mails to those with a sense of dark humor. See below sent to me a few minutes ago based on the duplicate thread now locked by the admin/mods.

(I posted ‘Rove sure gets around....”

Re: Nerve Gas Scare at U.N. Headquarters
From Buffalo Head | 08/30/2007 9:36:46 AM PDT new

How do you think that your inane post helps the purpose of this forum?


22 posted on 08/30/2007 9:43:50 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: All

It’s official- It’s a FOX NEWS ALERT now...


23 posted on 08/30/2007 9:44:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: farlander

What the heck is going on with this thread? This is on FOX right now.


24 posted on 08/30/2007 9:44:38 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: farlander

Yeah, I’d say they’ve got a lot of nerve at the UN...but they also have gas too? Typical...


25 posted on 08/30/2007 9:44:53 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: farlander

I’d make a joke in the poorest of tastes, but Marxocrats and the dinosaur media are in overdrive trawling for “proof” that FR is a hate site.


26 posted on 08/30/2007 9:45:38 AM PDT by M203M4 (Vote conservatism in 2008, have some standards - a Marxist is a Marxist)
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To: KarlInOhio

“It works by combining with water in your lungs and forming hydrochloric acid which damages lung tissue.”

Kind of like the gas chamber?


27 posted on 08/30/2007 9:45:43 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: usmcobra
"Well if they couldn’t find it in Iraq how are we suppose to believe they found it in their own building."

Phosgene was found in Iraq. The UN allowed Iraq to import phosgene as a dual use item, along with hydrogen cyanide and sodium cyanide. Kind of made the inspections useless if you ask me.

The UN has a GRL (Goods Review List) for Iraq on their website that lists all the stuff Iraq was allowed to have.

28 posted on 08/30/2007 9:45:55 AM PDT by avacado
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To: KarlInOhio

“Phosgene isn’t a nerve gas. It works by combining with water in your lungs and forming hydrochloric acid which damages lung tissue. It does not work on neurotransmitter chemicals.”

Doesn’t really matter. The UN lost their nerve years ago.


29 posted on 08/30/2007 9:45:56 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: farlander

Was this found in a closet in Koffi’s old office?

The one he had the black box in, the black box from the plane crash that killed an opponent of his.

I wonder what else is stored in the UN building?


30 posted on 08/30/2007 9:46:15 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: farlander

It was found in 1996 in Iraq. I thought Saddam had no WMD after the first gulf war? CNN is spinning now.


31 posted on 08/30/2007 9:47:15 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

keeping book on how long before some tool says “But it is only a few vials, no real danger was present”.


32 posted on 08/30/2007 9:48:20 AM PDT by brothers4thID (FDT: "Every notice that while our problems are getting bigger, our politicians are getting smaller?")
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To: KarlInOhio
Phosgene isn't a nerve gas. It works by combining with water in your lungs and forming hydrochloric acid which damages lung tissue. It does not work on neurotransmitter chemicals.

Aww... Let the poor journalist have his fun. "Nerve Gas" just has a nice ring to it, don't you think? Journalism is all about entertainment and shock value, after all. Never let it be said that accuracy stood in the way of a good journalistic fiction!

33 posted on 08/30/2007 9:48:43 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

ping


34 posted on 08/30/2007 9:49:35 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: farlander; wallcrawlr; Buffalo Head
REPEAT*: Maybe the UN is starting its own semiconductor fab?

(*Repeated from previous thread strictly because Buff Head didn't like it.)

36 posted on 08/30/2007 9:50:37 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: RightWhale

Nerve gas at the UN Headquarters?

Sounds like a good start...


37 posted on 08/30/2007 9:50:51 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If Roger Maris got an asterisk next to his name, Bonds should get a syringe)
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To: RightWhale

Nerve gas at the UN Headquarters?

Sounds like a good start...


38 posted on 08/30/2007 9:50:52 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If Roger Maris got an asterisk next to his name, Bonds should get a syringe)
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To: brothers4thID
CNN is claiming no big deal, it was just left lying around. I have not heard of this type of nerve gas in Iraq’s possession. This is huge!
39 posted on 08/30/2007 9:51:46 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: farlander

It turned out to be flatulence, as it was discovered that Senator Ted Kennedy was in the building.


40 posted on 08/30/2007 9:52:04 AM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Your results may vary. Void where prohibited.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Phosgene isn't a nerve gas. It works by combining with water in your lungs and forming hydrochloric acid which damages lung tissue. It does not work on neurotransmitter chemicals.

Thank you. I thought that this was a BS claim - phosgene was a weapon in WW1, and it took the Germans until WW2 to invent (and use, on Jews and others) nerve gasses like Sarin.

I looked this up on Wikipedia in about 5 seconds - but I guess that my expectations are a bit too high that ABC or any other media outlet would actually get their facts right.

41 posted on 08/30/2007 9:52:19 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Philistone
When I worked in swimming pool supplies, we were warned never to mix pool chlorine with pool acid because it would create mustard gas.

Reading up a bit on what it takes to produce mustard gas, I find no reference to combining pool acid (normally hydrochloric acid) and pool chlorine (normally a solid compound of chlorine).

It would, most likely, "just" release chlorine gas, which was also used as a chemical weapon in The Great War, and thus also undesirable.

42 posted on 08/30/2007 9:55:02 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Ancesthntr

btt


43 posted on 08/30/2007 9:55:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Philistone

Mixing pool chlorine and acid will yield chlorine gas, not mustard. Mustard and phosgene are entirely different compounds. At room temperature, mustard is a liquid, phosgene is a vapor.


44 posted on 08/30/2007 9:55:56 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: tobyhill
UN “reporter” on CNN, ie, (the guy who was caught on camera hugging Iraq’s ambassador goodbye in 03), Richard Roth, is chuckling about how the UN is known for this kind of forgetfulness, LOL!
45 posted on 08/30/2007 9:56:01 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: avacado; jveritas; farlander

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1639673/posts
U.N. “Disarming” Iraq from WMD while allowing them WMD???

Phosgene is on the list of Chemicals that was allowed by the UN to be imported by Saddam regime and these chemicals can be used for manufacturing Chemical Weapons.


46 posted on 08/30/2007 9:56:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: farlander

Impossible. There are no Iraqi WMD. /s


47 posted on 08/30/2007 9:57:30 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: roses of sharon

Time for the US to kick the UN out now since we don’t know what other chemicals they have stored in there from Iraq and just a tiny bit of some agents can kill hundreds of people.


48 posted on 08/30/2007 9:58:40 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: dfwgator

Didn’t Hans Brix die in the shark tank?


49 posted on 08/30/2007 9:58:45 AM PDT by elizabetty (Was it Dolly Madison or Dolli Madison? First Ladies should not end their name with "I")
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To: poobear
Kind of like the gas chamber?

Gas chambers usually use hydrogen cyanide, which screws up the ability of cells to metabolize. Phosgene causes physical damage to the lungs so the victim suffocates.

(I'm probably going to end up on some Homeland Security list for this. My knowlege comes from reading a long article on chemical warfare in a wargaming magazine plus quick use of the web. Honest.)

50 posted on 08/30/2007 9:59:05 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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