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Same-sex video is pulled in Evesham ...(school to show to fourth graders, instead of third graders)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Fri, Aug. 31, 2007 | Troy Graham

Posted on 08/31/2007 6:22:57 AM PDT by IrishMike

The Evesham school board last night voted 7-1 to stop showing third graders a controversial educational video that includes depictions of families headed by same-sex couples. The vote came after a committee of scholars and educators, appointed by the board to review the issue, recommended keeping the video in the curriculum, but showing it to fourth graders, instead of to third graders, as had been done.

But after a number of board members spoke against the film, the board did away with the video, called That's a Family, altogether.

The half-hour video shows children explaining their various family structures, including those with mixed-race couples and divorced, single and adoptive parents.

Jeanne Smith, a spokeswoman for the board, said: "The opinions expressed by members of the board against the video dealt with their worry that the video had become so divisive that it would continue to inflame the district and that there would be no healing."

In a survey of the issue, district parents were split nearly half and half on the issue, she said

Reacting to last night's vote, Steven Goldstein, chairman of the gay civil rights group Garden State Equality, said: "It's very likely that we in the civil rights community will take legal action to have the committee's recommendation to show this film enforced. We believe the board's actions are illegal."

Evesham started showing the video last school year as part of a state-mandated health curriculum, which requires students to "identify different kinds of families and explain that families may differ for many reasons."

The segment of That's a Family on same-sex couples, however, drew the ire of many parents who objected to their children learning about homosexuality in schools.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: childabuse; corruption; culturewar; democrats; education; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; liberals; moralabsolutes; morals; sexpositiveagenda; sexualizingchildren
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1 posted on 08/31/2007 6:22:59 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

If homosexuality were normal, none of us would be here.


2 posted on 08/31/2007 6:24:59 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: IrishMike
WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wouldn’t showing a heterosexual family’s sex life be termed PORNOGRAGHY?

SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 posted on 08/31/2007 6:25:13 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: poobear

We have the Muslims attacking from the front, and liberals attacking (from) the rear.


4 posted on 08/31/2007 6:27:10 AM PDT by IrishMike (As America wins, the Democrats and their apologists lose.)
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To: IrishMike

Our society is so screwed.


5 posted on 08/31/2007 6:27:59 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: tractorman

Ever try plugging a plug into another plug? ‘nuff said.


6 posted on 08/31/2007 6:28:00 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism now.)
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To: IrishMike

Gads.............


7 posted on 08/31/2007 6:28:01 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: IrishMike
"It's very likely that we in the civil rights community will take legal action to have the committee's recommendation to show this film enforced. We believe the board's actions are illegal."

Keep your sickness away from my kids you SOB!

8 posted on 08/31/2007 6:29:53 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: IrishMike

My sister teaches elementary ed in this school district. She says this controversy was a huge mess. Although she didn’t show the video, her colleagues that were required to show this filth were sick about it. Yes, even the teachers didn’t want this in the school!


9 posted on 08/31/2007 6:31:54 AM PDT by RedRightReturn (Global Warming is the new Eugenics...and Al Gore is the new Margaret Sanger)
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To: T.Smith

What this video tells the students is that what they have at home is NOT a family.


10 posted on 08/31/2007 6:32:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: poobear
I think they are simply showing different types of families - ones headed by a mom/dad, grandmother/child, dad/dad. Do you think that showing a standard pic of a mom and dad also indicates that sex is going on?

Btw, I think it's bunk over all - I wouldn't want my child show the video or any video having anything to do with sex or proper families. That would be why I opted both of my kids out of Family Life Education from K-10th

11 posted on 08/31/2007 6:33:06 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: IrishMike

...LITERALLY and FIGURATIVELY.


12 posted on 08/31/2007 6:39:12 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: T.Smith

It used to be called “corrupting a minor”.


13 posted on 08/31/2007 6:40:17 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: IrishMike

Would it be possible to teach children to maybe read, do math, spell?


14 posted on 08/31/2007 6:41:04 AM PDT by PrincessB ("I am an expert on my own opinion." - Dave Ramsey)
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To: massgopguy
What this video tells the students is that what they have at home is NOT a family.
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Absolutely, that abnormal behavior is acceptable.
15 posted on 08/31/2007 6:41:40 AM PDT by IrishMike (As America wins, the Democrats and their apologists lose.)
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To: massgopguy

Don’t forget the teachers that tell their students, “your parents aren’t always right.”


16 posted on 08/31/2007 6:41:42 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: IrishMike

I guess they removed the Daddy Does Daddy title.


17 posted on 08/31/2007 6:43:05 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: IrishMike
"It's very likely that we in the civil rights community will take legal action to have the committee's recommendation to show this film enforced. We believe the board's actions are illegal."

It's not a civil right to teach my child morality..........or lack of it. These deviants are trying to usurp parents rights through the schools and courts.

18 posted on 08/31/2007 6:43:59 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: SoftballMominVA

I think leaving family depiction to the families is proper. Government is NOT necessary. If a loving gay couple has children it is THEIR role to raise that family to THEIR standards NOT the government to share THEIR family values with the rest of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I CLEAR!?

Got kids? Do you shove down the throats of everyone you come in contact with your family practices? NOT!


19 posted on 08/31/2007 6:44:16 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: poobear; SoftballMominVA
Did you actually READ her post?! OR the article?

You said: Wouldn’t showing a heterosexual family’s sex life be termed PORNOGRAGHY?

The article says: The half-hour video shows children explaining their various family structures,

SoftballMominVA simply corrected your mistaken belief that it's porn.

20 posted on 08/31/2007 6:49:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: DJ MacWoW
These deviants are trying to usurp parents rights through the schools and courts.
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If that word ‘deviants’ were replaced with ‘Democrats’, it would be a method currently used by the dRATS to protect and preserve their future.
Plan B is legalize the illegals.

21 posted on 08/31/2007 6:49:43 AM PDT by IrishMike (As America wins, the Democrats and their apologists lose.)
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To: IrishMike
In a survey of the issue, district parents were split nearly half and half on the issue, she said

Somehow, I suspect this means that more people were opposed to the film being shown than were in favor. Had more than 50% been in favor, they would have said "a majority of district parents were in favor of showing the film..."

22 posted on 08/31/2007 6:50:23 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: IrishMike
Plan B is legalize the illegals.

Which is a separate issue from sexual deviancy.

23 posted on 08/31/2007 6:51:58 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: wagglebee

homosexual agenda ping


24 posted on 08/31/2007 6:52:51 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: IrishMike

It is all about homo access to kids. They want your kids and they will have them with the help of the ACLU, corrupt judges, and progressive liberals.


25 posted on 08/31/2007 6:54:22 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: IrishMike
Get involved in local school politics. This is obscene. . . .recommended keeping the video in the curriculum, but showing it to fourth graders, instead of to third graders, as had been done.
26 posted on 08/31/2007 7:04:23 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: IrishMike

The objective is to create acceptance of alternate ‘families’ before they have any idea what sex is, then when they clue into the concept of sex they can just transfer acceptance of the alternate ‘family’ to acceptance of gay sex.


27 posted on 08/31/2007 7:04:58 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Neoliberalnot; All

It is all about homo access to kids. They want your kids and they will have them with the help of the ACLU, corrupt judges, and progressive liberals.

= = = =

Too true . . . however, please join my crusade to insist on accurate vocabulary.

Infanticide is NOT choice—it is infanticide.

homosexuality is not gay, light-hearted, pure joy and fun—it is homosexuality. Maybe guk would be a fitting short substitute.

And liberal idiot, perverse, traitorous destroyers of our republic so skillful at taking us all back to Soddom and Gomorrah are NOT progressives . . .

THEY ARE

REGRESSIVES! And Terminal Regressives at that . . . when God gets around to it.


28 posted on 08/31/2007 7:06:27 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: stm

Ever try plugging a plug into another plug? ‘nuff said.

Christmas tree lights are gay then they go both ways


29 posted on 08/31/2007 7:07:17 AM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: IrishMike

Homosexual partners can not make children on their own. The only way they can “have a family” is to claim other people’s children.


30 posted on 08/31/2007 7:09:08 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: IrishMike
The same people that feel this video is OK for kids, would get “the vapors” if the school showed an NRA sponsored gun safety video.
31 posted on 08/31/2007 7:13:10 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: stm
Some things just weren't meant for each other.


32 posted on 08/31/2007 7:16:46 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Quix

I use the progressive term as sarcastic. I am fully aware that progressive is code for true regressive.


33 posted on 08/31/2007 7:19:09 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: poobear

“I think leaving family depiction to the families is proper. Government is NOT necessary. If a loving gay couple has children it is THEIR role to raise that family to THEIR standards NOT the government to share THEIR family values with the rest of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

The issue is that turning kids over to deviants is the worst form of child abuse. Homosexuals can’t have kids so they want other peoples’ kids. This was a common practice in ancient Rome where boys were used, traded, and sold among the “gay” population. The boys were called catamites.


34 posted on 08/31/2007 7:23:22 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: Sicon
Somehow, I suspect this means that more people were opposed to the film being shown than were in favor.

It's New Jersey. I believe the 50% statistic. We homeschool here in NJ, and even half the homeschool families lean to the Far Left, including some of the "Christian" homeschoolers.

35 posted on 08/31/2007 7:29:33 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

God, I love this forum. Everyone is so helpful. What would I be or would have been without the help of the corrective FReepers. Dear God forgive me for living before registering with this forum in 2004.

-!


36 posted on 08/31/2007 7:31:25 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; BlackElk; blu; Capagrl; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.
37 posted on 08/31/2007 7:32:18 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: poobear

I understand your passion but you blasted a fellow freeper for no reason.


38 posted on 08/31/2007 7:35:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: IrishMike

Another reason everyone should get their children out of public schools - now.


39 posted on 08/31/2007 7:36:33 AM PDT by khnyny (The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away. Ronald Reagan)
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To: PrincessB
"Would it be possible to teach children to maybe read, do math, spell?"

I see that you are woefully behind the times, dear lady.

Children don't need those skills anymore, haven't you heard?

TV takes the place of reading.

Pocket calculators take the place of math.

And "spell-chuck" takes the place of spelling.

Ain't life grand?

40 posted on 08/31/2007 7:36:41 AM PDT by Designer
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To: IrishMike

A more basic question is this - why do schools believe it is their responsibility to teach anything about families at all? They’ve already got their hands full trying to teach the 3 R’s. Many teach history as some type of revisionist social studies, as opposed to just teaching history. IMO, public schools should stay away from teaching anything about families and family structure. That teaching should come from the family or the church.


41 posted on 08/31/2007 7:37:09 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: IrishMike; wagglebee
Jeanne Smith, a spokeswoman for the board, said: "The opinions expressed by members of the board against the video dealt with their worry that the video had become so divisive that it would continue to inflame the district and that there would be no healing."

Can't not show it because it's wrong, now could we?

Reacting to last night's vote, Steven Goldstein, chairman of the gay civil rights group Garden State Equality, said: "It's very likely that we in the civil rights community will take legal action to have the committee's recommendation to show this film enforced. We believe the board's actions are illegal."

We in the civil rights community? What a not so subtle slam against everyone who disagrees with them. The clear implication is that *breeders* do not believe in civil rights but oppression.

They may believe that the actions are illegal, but too bad, it doesn't mean they are. They may not like it but that doesn't mean they're illegal.

So now they're threatening the school district with a lawsuit to force them to capitulate because they cannot afford the financial hit defending themselves would cost.

42 posted on 08/31/2007 7:38:26 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are, that’s a funny joke there!


43 posted on 08/31/2007 7:40:35 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism now.)
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To: Sicon

Yeah, “nearly half” could be 30/70 in liberalland.


44 posted on 08/31/2007 7:40:50 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

thx for your kind reply . . .

I understand . . . but I wish we could scuttle the term like the infanticiders transformed infanticide into CHOICE


45 posted on 08/31/2007 7:41:39 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

“I understand . . . but I wish we could scuttle the term like the infanticiders transformed infanticide into CHOICE”

It is called liberalspeak. Evil shall be called Good.


46 posted on 08/31/2007 7:48:42 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: IrishMike

Wow. Sometimes words don’t do an article any justice and this is one of those times.


47 posted on 08/31/2007 7:50:58 AM PDT by GlennBeck08
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To: Neoliberalnot

YUP . . . for a season.


48 posted on 08/31/2007 7:55:50 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: IrishMike
Steven Goldstein, chairman of the gay civil rights group Garden State Equality, said: "It's very likely that we in the civil rights community will take legal action to have the committee's recommendation to show this film enforced. We believe the board's actions are illegal."

Didn't know there's a "civil right" to force third graders to watch same sex propoganda. And any attempt to prevent that is illegal. /s

49 posted on 08/31/2007 7:58:31 AM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians!” -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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To: tractorman

Now that statement is a keeper.


50 posted on 08/31/2007 8:00:57 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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