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To: norton

“To their eyes, comfortable as it may be, western society is an aberration.

It’s the other way around - to you guys anything non-christian is an aberration.

Many muslims from iraq and iran have left the country because of the quite unpleasant experiences they made with the regimes there - then again many left when the air became to much poluted with heavy metalls - and most of them are sick and tired of this quite oriental kill and get killed game.

I guess many of them value peace and democracy higher then anyone over here - they just know the alternatives.

So why o why should these folks from all folks have to justify themselfes ?

There are otheres - they are over here but I guess in germany the problem is by far lower then in Belgium, the netherlands and France where you can see the one or other burka.

You will not see this in germany.

We have some (most times Pakistani some turkish)Imams that are definately on the dark side -we have a problem with them but we differenciate between them and the good guys - it’s our duty and if you don’t -

you loose the battle against the bad guys for sure.


21 posted on 09/04/2007 1:11:30 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
"We have some...Imams that are definately on the dark side -we have a problem with them but we differenciate between them and the good guys - it’s our duty and if you don’t -"

And just how do you differentiate?

The ones who absolutely refuse to discuss it are good guys?
The ones who don't wear beards and robes are good guys?
The one not screaming in your face is a good guy?

I'm not talking about foam at the mouth radicals...

I'm talking about "normal" everyday folks, business persons, engineers, bankers...people I have daily interactions with and have done so for 15 or more years. Nice people in every regard and far more likely to "fit in" than 90% of "our" mexicans.

Except that they still consider events in the middle east as normal and entirely reasonable. Most are still uncomfortable with gender equality and with "losing" their kids to western ways.

Apart from the frequent trips back home, they almost universally expect to return. The only exceptions I have noted were Persians who came while Shah was in power, and (I think) one Jordanian. Christians and Armenians are separate categories altogether.

PS: Identifying me as a Christian is a stretch unless someone has died or gotten married recently - and the last one of those was Jewish.

PPS: Good luck with your sensitivity training but I doubt there is any way to win a battle by looking on and debating shades of gray.

27 posted on 09/04/2007 8:58:30 AM PDT by norton
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