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Ernest Norton


Mr Norton was practising cricket with
his son in the tennis courts

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'Stoning' death boys cause havoc at Old BaileyBack to Communities

source: http://www.24dash.com/communities/26950.htm

A judge ordered the parents of five boys accused of manslaughter to keep them under control after their unruly behaviour caused havoc at the Old Bailey.

The youngsters were caught causing "mischief" in the court while they were being tried for killing 67-year-old Ernest Norton, it can be reported today.

Judge Warwick McKinnon was forced to apply new bail conditions in the middle of the trial after their antics were reported to him...

He told the court: "It has been brought to my attention that the defendants are wandering around unaccompanied and conducting themselves in such a way that staff members are worried...."

Two of them had been seen hanging out of windows, he said...

He ordered that they should be accompanied by an appropriate adult or solicitor while in the precincts of the court.

The trial has been held under special conditions to take into account the unusually young age of the defendants.

Neither barristers nor the judge wore formal court gowns or wigs and breaks in evidence have been much more frequent than usual to help the youngsters cope.

Each one of them has been accompanied to court every day by a parent to sit in the dock alongside them.

But it was not enough to stop one of the defendants, a 14-year-old boy, from ...dozing off during the trial.

The court has heard that the boys belonged to a gang, with its own website called "TNE" or "The New Estate"...

On the day of Mr Norton's death the five defendants had gone along, armed with a baseball bat, to confront another group, but were chased off by a passer-by...who took the bat from them, the trial heard.

Earlier that day they had been amusing themselves by smashing windows at a disused factory and being "mouthy" to staff at Erith leisure centre, jurors heard.

But Nicholas Valios QC, defending the youngest boy, who was just ten at the time...He claimed the boys were not a "gang of anti-social youths", as he said the prosecution had sought to portray them.

"Every day one has read something about gangs of people killing innocent others, people kicked or knifed to death or shot dead by youths who have been terrorising estates. That really isn't this case," Mr Valios said.

1 posted on 08/31/2007 8:30:12 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
As the verdicts were read out, the five and their parents, broke down and sobbed.

So apparently, they were there...

However Judge McKinnon had to order that the children be accompanied at all times during the trial as they had been seen horseplaying around the court building, two had hung out of windows, and staff feared they might get up to more mischief.

Indeed as they awaited for the jury to return with their verdicts they were seen play wrestling outside court.

Some parents...

2 posted on 08/31/2007 8:35:14 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: yankeedame
"Every day one has read something about gangs of people killing innocent others, people kicked or knifed to death or shot dead by youths who have been terrorising estates. That really isn't this case," Mr Valios said.

No, no. This is clearly different. It's not like those cases in at all!

It says in the article that rocks were used in the assault, so you can see the difference straightaway ...

3 posted on 08/31/2007 8:35:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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To: yankeedame

What exactly does “yob” stand for?


4 posted on 08/31/2007 8:35:47 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: yankeedame

A couple of hundred years ago their favorite play things would have been hanging on the tower doors as the new knockers...


5 posted on 08/31/2007 8:36:41 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: yankeedame

Bad enough the killed him, but then they STILL continued with their abhorrent behavior even as they were awaiting the verdict. Unbelievable.

Let’s try to remember to check back on Oct. 19 (when they’ll be sentenced). They deserve life for brutally killing this man and terrorizing their community.


6 posted on 08/31/2007 8:37:29 AM PDT by Joann37
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During the 20-day trial lawyers and Judge Warwick McKinnon were unrobed and without wigs because of the ages of the five.

gasp!!!!.................OH............

15 posted on 08/31/2007 8:57:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: yankeedame

“Its a fair cop” but society is to blame. We’ll be charging them too.


16 posted on 08/31/2007 9:00:12 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: yankeedame
guilty of manslaughter

I don't know British law, but throwing stones at guys head is not MANSLAUGHTER... in the US its at least 3rd degree murder... wanton disregard for human life.

19 posted on 08/31/2007 9:31:47 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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As the verdicts were read out, the five and their parents, broke down and sobbed.

They were, no doubt, expressing their sorrow for the painful and frightening death they caused. They were grieving for the man they killed.

The fact that their grief waited for the verdict was an unfortunate coincidence.

21 posted on 08/31/2007 9:45:46 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: yankeedame
These aren't the lads in question, are they?



23 posted on 08/31/2007 10:43:48 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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