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Court: Mexican trucks program to proceed (9th Circus says 'Let 'em roll!')
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/31/07 | Jordan Robertson - ap

Posted on 08/31/2007 6:32:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO - The Bush administration can go ahead with a pilot program to allow as many as 100 Mexican trucking companies to freely haul their cargo anywhere within the U.S. for the next year, a federal appeals court ruled Friday.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied a request made by the Teamsters union, the Sierra Club and the nonprofit Public Citizen to halt the program.

The appeals court ruled the groups have not satisfied the legal requirements to immediately stop what the government is calling a "demonstration project," but can continue to argue their case.

The trucking program is scheduled to begin Thursday.

In court papers filed earlier this week, the Teamsters and Sierra Club argued there won't be enough oversight of the drivers coming into the U.S. from Mexico.

They also argued that public safety would be endangered in a hasty attempt by the government to comply with parts of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

The trade agreement requires that all roads in the United States, Mexico and Canada to be opened to carriers from all three countries.

Canadian trucking companies have full access to U.S. roads, but Mexican trucks can only travel about 20 miles inside the country at certain border crossings such as ones in San Diego and El Paso, Texas.


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To: jedward; nicmarlo
“Two-thirds of the Senate present for the NAFTA vote did not concur. The Bill was passed but no treaty was authorized.”

Now that’s very interesting. Is this why a President uses his discretion on pushing certain portions (i.e. mexican trucking)?

The point is that NAFTA has the force of law but is not a treaty. The President has the same authority and responsibility, and discretion, to enforce the provisions of NAFTA as he does to enforce our immigration laws.

Also, as law but not treaty, NAFTA can be altered or repealed with the simple passage of another law.

So, when a Congress critter says that their hands are tied, that they are "bound" by NAFTA, it's likely a disingenuous argument. However, in the case that they are speaking out of ignorance, that they actually believe that NAFTA is a not easily altered treaty, then they should be reminded that NAFTA is simply law and that they have the power to create or change laws.

501 posted on 09/02/2007 12:46:11 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: SandRat
uh, dude, it’s a Republican President that is pushing it.
El Presidente Jorge will forever, rightly or wrongly, be identified with this program as swell as amnesty. Don’t know what the Bush Worshippers over on ‘A day in the life’ have to say but this is all Bush, the 9th circus just gave the GOP a bit more rope.
502 posted on 09/02/2007 12:48:06 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (When the government fears the People= Liberty. When the People fear the Government =Tyranny)
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To: Colorado Buckeye; jedward; Czar; Borax Queen
Also, as law but not treaty, NAFTA can be altered or repealed with the simple passage of another law. So, when a Congress critter says that their hands are tied, that they are "bound" by NAFTA, it's likely a disingenuous argument. However, in the case that they are speaking out of ignorance, that they actually believe that NAFTA is a not easily altered treaty, then they should be reminded that NAFTA is simply law and that they have the power to create or change laws.

That is the whole point as to why I even pinged so many...I keep hearing that "their hands are tied" because "they" are "bound" by a treaty (NAFTA)...which, according to your enlightening post, is either being said out of ignorance....or, they're LYING.

503 posted on 09/02/2007 12:53:53 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: RedStateRocker; Borax Queen
this is all Bush, the 9th circus just gave the GOP a bit more rope.

Exactly!! And, btw, don't you just love his tie, though? Doesn't that make up for selling out America?

504 posted on 09/02/2007 12:55:07 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: yorkie

all good rules to follow - especially since so many truck
drivers are prone to change lanes suddenly w/o a signal,
and to use retread tires that tend to come apart.

Bad especially if you are on a motorcycle.


505 posted on 09/02/2007 12:57:22 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Borax Queen
I am a bad serf because I have a brain.

I'm a bad serf because we exercise our second amendment every time we have two nickels to rub together.

506 posted on 09/02/2007 1:03:01 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: UCANSEE2

Dimwits put cheap goods above all other considerations.


507 posted on 09/02/2007 1:03:16 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: nicmarlo
BTW, I'm sure there are many who do...so, why are they denying this? What's in it for them to ridicule and deny??? How much are they getting paid to do so?

I agree.

508 posted on 09/02/2007 1:05:31 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: rahbert

I was almost killed by an 18 wheeler last month. I was in the passing lane, passing a whole line of trucks. He pulled out in front of me on the highway going uphill, without using his signal. (I was traveling at 75 mph.) I had to slam on my breaks and came within (what felt like) inches of the truck.

License plate? Mexico. >:-(


509 posted on 09/02/2007 1:06:39 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
So I wonder how many Americans will have to be injured and killed for this program to end?

In the opinion of post-nationalists, Americans are easily replaced by 3rd worlders. So there is no number of American dead and injured that is large enough to end the program.

510 posted on 09/02/2007 1:23:27 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Pelham; nicmarlo
In the opinion of post-nationalists, Americans are easily replaced by 3rd worlders. So there is no number of American dead and injured that is large enough to end the program.

Another frightening thought for today. And true.

511 posted on 09/02/2007 1:32:19 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen; Pelham

indeed.... *sigh*

No good news, again, today. : (


512 posted on 09/02/2007 1:34:54 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Colorado Buckeye

“The point is that NAFTA has the force of law but is not a treaty. The President has the same authority and responsibility, and discretion, to enforce the provisions of NAFTA as he does to enforce our immigration laws”

Ok, thanks! That’s the impression I had as well. Thanks for pointing that out.


513 posted on 09/02/2007 1:36:20 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: processing please hold; All

You know I (and you guys too) can deal with the ridiculers no problems ;) It’s really the greater majority of those who are quiet and simply sit on their hands that are not helping. I’ll even say many of the politicians that aren’t on the take are simply too lazy to actually do some of the work we’ve done on this thread and understand how this “system” works. Not to mention their lack of desire to stand up for what WE want.


514 posted on 09/02/2007 1:39:58 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Liz

“Laws and the sacrosanct rule of law WERE the only thing that separated the US from Third World banana republics-—now even that is slipping away.”

When our President refuses to enforce the law, we are in deep trouble!


515 posted on 09/02/2007 1:43:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Colorado Buckeye; nicmarlo
The President has the same authority and responsibility, and discretion, to enforce the provisions of NAFTA as he does to enforce our immigration laws.

Yet he only chooses to enforce the un-fair trade agreement? (Of course, because that socks it to the American serfs and further debilitates the middle class.)

516 posted on 09/02/2007 1:44:44 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: yorkie

“I was almost killed by an 18 wheeler last month. I was in the passing lane, passing a whole line of trucks. He pulled out in front of me on the highway going uphill, without using his signal. (I was traveling at 75 mph.) I had to slam on my breaks and came within (what felt like) inches of the truck.

License plate? Mexico. >:-(”

It will become 50 times worse!


517 posted on 09/02/2007 1:45:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: jedward
Not to mention their lack of desire to stand up for what WE want.

The lettuce-head (McCain) supposedly had a change of heart and now wants to enforce immigration laws. Too little, too late - no one trusts him or most of them anymore.

518 posted on 09/02/2007 1:46:23 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: nicmarlo
That is the whole point as to why I even pinged so many...I keep hearing that "their hands are tied" because "they" are "bound" by a treaty (NAFTA)...which, according to your enlightening post, is either being said out of ignorance....or, they're LYING.

Indeed. I heard my Republican Senator, Allard, on a radio show some time back saying that they were bound by NAFTA. We need to call them on it, as I did with a recent email, and we need to get the word out that NAFTA is not a treaty.

Finally, I know that it is easy to get down and depressed about our situation, and even to give up. But, we can win this war even if we temporarily lose a given battle.

Last June we did something that had not previously been achieved; we handed the globalists there first real defeat of substance.

The people are rapidly waking up; we have powerful communication tools and we still have the power of the ballot. We can win and we will win. While the time is late, this war is far from over.

I no longer see the political landscape as one being divided between conservatives and liberals, between Republicans and Democrats, but rather as being divided between Americans and globalists.

When a politician seeks my vote, my first question is: Is he or she an American or a globalist. I will not be voting any longer for globalists, regardless of how "conservative" they purport to be.

To win this war; and in particular, to go on offense, to take the fight directly to the enemy; we simply need to elect an American President and an American Congress. It will not be easy, but we can do it.

519 posted on 09/02/2007 1:46:43 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: jedward
It’s really the greater majority of those who are quiet and simply sit on their hands that are not helping.

As soon as I read this part of your post, this jumped into my mind: "All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing."

I've given up on our current batch of politicians. They're useless greed driven parasites now who don't give a tinker's damn about our sovereignty.

What 'we want' isn't even in their vocabulary any longer.

520 posted on 09/02/2007 1:47:53 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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