Rotate google earth and note the angles and positions of the walls around the building I call the shed ... and the compound to it's right ... they match up exactly with the position I put the taxi in.
Posted on 08/31/2007 7:39:19 PM PDT by camerakid400
BTW - Located the place the other guys called in the air strike on later that day ...
Lat 34° 7’6.45”N
Lon 42°23’7.57”E
It’s about 1100m away
Pigs in a blanket? ;)
No really, I hope the present law suits forming against Murtha are opened to class action. It is my understanding that if one defames a single Marine, one defames them all...
The result of such a class action would be hilarious to see when every Marine, past and present were moved by their own indignation to sign up for damages...
Such a spectacle it would be...
“By My calculation’s using your location for the Taxi places the Taxi the furthest from the action instead of the closest to the Marines.”
LOL - the reality of the position of the shed and the fences ( walls ? hard to tell ) dosn’t stack up to where it just HAS TO BE to make your scenerio work right ?
YOUR leftmost arrow is pointing directly at the roof of the shed I’m talking about , the same one you can see very clearly in the video - the Taxi is obviously near the road very close to that.
Sorry, my FRiend, but you simply can’t adjust physical evidence such as this because it does not fit your idea of the events.
Amen to all you wrote Darryl.
Thanks for the ping.
I knew that all along.
It's the proof Dela Cruz is still lying when he said he went to piss on the skull of the dead Iraq from the Taxi as well as the proof that SSgt Wuterich had to have a very good reason to engage it first.
Like you said....
you simply can’t adjust physical evidence such as this because it does not fit your idea of the events.
The Events are the events, The Taxi which was the farthest away was engaged first!
Now why would that be?
What logical explanation could there possible be for attacking people so far away from the ambush that they were almost 200 yards away.
Knowing the type of ego you have, (I read your homepage) I knew that you were a troll the second you started to badger and snipe at me with the same tired question over and over.
So I purposely and deliberately set you up and lead you over here to this thread because of your general lack of knowledge, and your dependence on media articles about these events would allow me to take you anywhere I wanted to go.
In short I trolled a troll.
Now you have proved that the Taxi which was the first thing engaged by the Marines that day was the furthest thing from the initial attack.
There must be a logic reason right?
Given all the houses and all the buildings in this small area, why engage this taxi first?
It was almost out of eyesight and partially hidden by it's surrounding area and with a number of objects nearby that could be used as cover for an ambush?
Could it be that this taxi well away from action was engaged first because it was a source of the fire that the Corpsman said they were taking?
By The way The Corpsman hasn't take the stand and insisted he was lying like Dela Cruz has done repeatedly almost to point of tears insisting that he be believed that he was lying when faced with his own accounts of the events.
Frankly while you were busy hunting down all the stuff you needed to prove me "wrong", I was welding a quarter panel on a 1966 Mustang, pausing every so often to give you just enough line to lead you onto my conclusions.
With some obvious corrections(that anyone that has seen the map would have realized) my scenario of the events still hold true and more importantly logically holds true, in fact thanks to your proof that I was "wrong" based upon your untiring dissection of the Video and relentless search on google earth (somme of us were actually working) we all now have a clearer picture of what actually happened.
By The way, never try to troll an old Troll™ especially this old Troll™.
Joyride!
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-35165/taxi.jpg
http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/jul2005/a072605la2.html/taxi.jpg
But, but, but, the troll said you were making things up. /s
Well done, Cobra.
Gee, I guess you fooled me ... that make you feel better ?
- but that said -
“The Events are the events, The Taxi which was the farthest away was engaged first!
Now why would that be? “
Since you don’t know the final position of the other 3 HV’s you don’t know if that was the furthest position.
But how about this ? the taxi comes along and, as you noted before, it was barely visable on a line from the IED site. It stops, as they look and try to figure out what they should do.
Now ... “What logical explanation could there possible be for attacking people so far away from the ambush that they were almost 200 yards away.”
No LOGICAL reason, but Wuterich said that if they were bombed they should kill everyone in the vicinity - and these just might have been the first people they spotted in the vicinity.
But more importantly -
Why does Wuterich NEVER say the taxi occupants were firing at them, and his statement is that they were killed because they were running away ?
If YOU are correct, HE is lieing.
We know exactly where the taxi was from the video - and Google earth gives us the positions of the houses.
Yes, the others were further east. I was waiting for someone who knows current tactics to give us an idea of how far spread apart the convoy travels and what might have been their expected movements immediately after the explosion.
Do you have the 14,000 page NCIS report and the actual drone video the media is using to source the basis of these renewed media attacks on these Marines?
What you are reading has been cherry picked to form an opinion that these Marines didn’t snap as previously suggested but instead went on a methodical four hour killing spree before they were rescued by a quick reaction force.
Take a real good look at their targets...
The Taxi
The Taxi and it’s occupants furtherest away from the initial attack, it is engaged first...
And where are the bodies found? Behind taxi headed away from the Marines.
There were five people in the taxi, and yet the doors were opened in such a fashion that only the driver exited the side facing the Marines.
Why? Logic might suggest that an assault team of insurgents would bail out that way and hide behind the taxi, logic would suggest that once they started to receive fire from the Marines, they might want to leave rapidly using the Taxi for cover.
Logic would suggest that all these things are possible but what isn’t logical is that an entire group of highly disciplined battle tested and combat hardened Marines would suddenly and inexplicable commit mass murder under the orders of a single “inexperienced” newbie, Logic would suggest that they would do what countless other Marines and soldiers have done in similar situations, they would do nothing.
Logic would suggest that they had to have reasons to engage each of these locations so let’s move on to the house in the south from the road.
See the large open area next to the road
See the dry creek running through the large open area next to the road.
See the large open area next the dry creek running through the large open area next to the road.
See the houses next to the large open area next the dry creek running through the large open area next to the road.
See that the Marines must cross the large open area next to the road the dry creek running through the large open area next to the road, the large open area next the dry creek running through the large open area next to the road to get to the first house they engaged.
See the Marines have to cross this area so they can knock on a door and ask if there are any terrorists on the premises.
Logic right? Logic says that this trek across such an open area to such a remote location would not be necassary unless what?
Perhaps they were being fired upon by persons unknown at that location?
But that is only the first house isn’t it there is also one behind it as well?
Logic would suggest that if These marines suddenly discovered that they had killed civilians in the taxi and in an assault on the houses to south, someone would have said “wait one! this is wrong”
But instead these Marines engaged another group of house in the complete opposite direction, this time they engaged house to the north that were not even in the line of sight from the first attack on these Marines.
Logically there was no reason you can suggest for any of these Marines actions, I on the other hand have a simple explanation why These Marines engaged targets in each of these direction and not in other directions.
They were under fire from each of these three targets.
SSgt Wuterich gave orders to engage these targets and these Marines responded to those orders by engaging those target because they were targets.
Ultimately despite the lies the only logical reason at all for attacking these places leads to the same sane conclusion they were attacked and fought back.
Logic would imply no one would be stupid enough to post that kind of information unless one doesn’t mind dead Marines.
Either the Southern houses (1 & 2) or the Northern Houses (3 & 4)?
Am I remembering this correctly?
You’re right on them being to the west,
cobra has since said he was kidding about where he put the taxi initially.
Your guess is as good as mine as to where he thinks it is now, but the video puts it pretty damn close to where I said it was.
I don’t think we know where they lived. They were supposedly returning to Haditha for the weekend from being away at some college, I think.
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