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GOP Values Voters Presidential Debate; Sept. 17, 2007, 7:30 p.m., ET

Posted on 08/31/2007 8:06:02 PM PDT by Sun

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To: Pinkbell

You probably read that Rudy McRomney haven’t said they would be in the debate yet - at least so far. Fred Thompson also didn’t commit to being in the debate, but maybe he will after he officially declares on Sept. 6.


21 posted on 09/01/2007 2:38:43 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun

Much more attention would truly be given to this debate if Fred Thompson does decide to participate in it. Fred Thompson would also be hurting himself politically if he decides not to participate in this debate, which he probably won’t (just my honest opinion). Also, if Fred Thompson truly does decide to participate in this debate as his first debate, then it would also create the possibility of forcing all of the other GOP Presidential candidates-the “Kennedy wing” of the GOP as Duncan Hunter puts it-to decide to participate in this debate after all. All of the GOP Presidential candidates truly need as many conservative voters as possible to truly vote for them during the entire primary season, and they would truly be foolish to frequently ignore the conservative voters.


22 posted on 09/01/2007 3:00:43 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Pinkbell

I would also like to send in a question to this debate. How does one send in a question?


23 posted on 09/01/2007 3:21:23 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

“How does one send in a question?”

Sorry, you’ve just used up your one question. :-)


24 posted on 09/01/2007 8:18:00 AM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: Sun
Will the AFA panelists ask about the SPP? Apparently, reporters in the organization are dismayed by it. (AFA Family News Network link.)
25 posted on 09/01/2007 3:30:03 PM PDT by Old 300
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

In order to ask a question you go to this link:

http://www.valuesvoterdebate.com/

There you will see this about 2/3 down the page:

Send the questions you most want asked at the debate to f2ainfo@f2a.org. Thanks for those who’ve already sent them, they’re great!


26 posted on 09/01/2007 3:47:55 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Sun

I can understand McCain and Guiliani not showing up. They really have nothing to offer. I can’t understand Romney not showing up. After all, he keeps trying to prove his conversion to social conservative values in order to get their vote. I wonder if he’s afraid all his flip flops will hurt him.


27 posted on 09/01/2007 3:52:19 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Sun
I’m guessing you’re a Libertarian?? And support Ron Paul?? You cannot enjoy freedom or liberty if you are dead - over 46 million innocents killed from abortion, and countless people from forced euthanasia.

The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/

28 posted on 09/01/2007 4:02:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Swordfished
Are these values more important than the values of freedom and liberty?

They're just as important.

I just hope this debate doesn't veer into an advocacy for big-government social policies *Huckabee smoking ban cough, Hunter opposes gambling cough*

29 posted on 09/01/2007 4:04:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t question the good intentions of those that put this debate together, but I do question the idea of compartmentalization.

A candidate should be evaluated as a total package and be selling himself as a total package.

The Democrats’ ‘gay debate’ ought not to have held, for the same reasons we ought not hold debates limited to particular topics like immigration, foreign policy, or crime.

It’s unhelpful in the way that Democrats’ special interest groups is unhelpful - it fractures.


30 posted on 09/01/2007 4:18:45 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

“Fred Thompson would also be hurting himself politically if he decides not to participate in this debate”

I agree. I don’t think a presidential Republican can win an election without the Values folks.


31 posted on 09/01/2007 9:02:00 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Old 300

Duncan Hunter is the most effective presidential candidate to fight SPP, and even the Constitution Party complimented him on fighting SPP and securing our borders.


32 posted on 09/01/2007 9:44:02 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Swordfished

I know that Ron Paul is a pro-life, Libertarian, but the Libertarian platform is not pro-life, and our friend, Swordfished, seemed to want the life issue REPLACED with liberty, rather than “LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. He never told me if he was a Libertarian or not (yet), but I thought he sounded like a Libertarian.

I know many Libertarians who are not pro-life, but support Ron Paul because of his other Libertarian positions.

btw, a flow in Ron Paul’s pro-life position might be because he is Libertarian. That flaw is: Paul voted to allow groups like Planned Parenthood to take minors for abortions without their parents’ permission.


33 posted on 09/01/2007 9:53:13 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Pinkbell

“I wonder if he’s afraid all his flip flops will hurt him.”

Maybe that’s it, and the flip flops should hurt Romney. I was ready to give Romney the benefit of the doubt about becoming pro-life, but when I read about all of his other flip flops, I have to say I doubt his pro-life conversion?? as well.

It seems he “changed his mind” just in time to run for president.


34 posted on 09/01/2007 9:56:39 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun
I know that Ron Paul is a pro-life, Libertarian, but the Libertarian platform is not pro-life, and our friend, Swordfished, seemed to want the life issue REPLACED with liberty, rather than “LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. He never told me if he was a Libertarian or not (yet), but I thought he sounded like a Libertarian.

I know many Libertarians who are not pro-life, but support Ron Paul because of his other Libertarian positions.

btw, a flow in Ron Paul’s pro-life position might be because he is Libertarian. That flaw is: Paul voted to allow groups like Planned Parenthood to take minors for abortions without their parents’ permission.

I ought to be a Paul supporter, because I do lean heavily Libertarian (or, more accurately, I'm a Libertarian leaning slightly Republican). But, I don't think the country really wants to return to the Constitution. I think Paul's getting a lot of his support just from anti-war folks (and the few isolationists). If elected, Paul wouldn't be able to get much done (Congress) and if he did, the country would take it in shock, then whine and beg for their nanny state back.

As for the abortion issue, I'm agnostic. It's one of those issues where both sides argue fervently with incredulity that there could even be another side. Yet, if abortion were as clear an injustice as murder, one would think there would be universal agreement on this fact, as there is on murder in general. Many will flame me, glossing right over this fact.

A reduction in abortions would be a positive thing, but not by edict. I think we'll get to a day where abortion won't be necessary because contraceptive 'technology' will be sufficient to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

35 posted on 09/02/2007 6:14:49 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Swordfished

I think many folks don’t support the Constitution, because they don’t understand it. In fact, even Constitutional scholars disagree.

But folks are adamant about certain parts of the Constitution, actually the Bill of Rights, like the First and Second Amendment.

I wish they would teach more about the Constitution in the schools, rather than all this waste-of-time P.C. nonsense.

Ronald Reagn said the people who are not against abortion have already been born.

Some people think the unborn baby is just a “blob,” but most women, when they see an ultrasound, choose LIFE!

Here’s a couple of links showing a preborn baby at different stages:

http://www.cwcobgyn.com/images/4dpics_3.jpg
ULTRASOUND OF PREBORN BABY PIX

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b253/mware/18week125-1.jpg

18-week Old Fetus

No one should be apathetic about these precious little lives. I don;t think any of us would like to be burned to death with saline, or stabbed with partial-birth infanticide.


36 posted on 09/02/2007 9:56:54 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun
a flow in Ron Paul’s pro-life position might be because he is Libertarian. That flaw is: Paul voted to allow groups like Planned Parenthood to take minors for abortions without their parents’ permission.

Violates the principles of federalism. The law would have been swatted down by a liberal judge anyway.

Paul is 100% pro-life. Questioning his pro-life beliefs are without merit.

37 posted on 09/02/2007 11:46:40 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I’m questioning Ron Paul’s judgment. Libertarians often have a flawed view of the Constitution, but seem to think they are infallible experts when it comes to the Constitution.

The govt. should not supercede the parent’s rights, and take a minor across the state line for an abortion without their consent and knowledge.


38 posted on 09/02/2007 1:43:41 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun
Values eh? I wonder if these guys will be there? Because I know you'll ask, I'm rooting for Duncan Hunter.

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39 posted on 09/03/2007 9:00:51 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: hiredhand

I take it you don’t care for them. :)

So far Rudy McRomney won’t be there, but time will tell.


40 posted on 09/03/2007 9:07:50 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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