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Why China is Trying to Colonise Africa
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | August 31, 2007 | By David Blair

Posted on 08/31/2007 8:28:40 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL

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To: Jabba the Nutt
The Chinese are currently being far more benign than the British with their supposed African 'empire.'
21 posted on 09/01/2007 1:43:46 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: ken21
will any american university professors step forward and denounce this as chinese imperialism?

Unless there is military occupation involved, the most you can call it is economic imperialism. Otherwise you sound just as ridiculous as the Soviets calling Americans imperialists during the Cold War. Figures of speech is for liberals.
22 posted on 09/01/2007 8:57:13 AM PDT by GeorgeKant
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To: JACKRUSSELL; Jedi Master Pikachu

This article reads like one big hyperbole from rehashed news at least a year old. It also has the sincererity of a convicted ex-con complaining about the new thief on the street.

Colonialism requires a loss of political sovereignty of the colony to the coloniser. What China is doing is not colonialism, but economic exploitation.

And everyone seems to quote that Sata guy.


23 posted on 09/01/2007 9:07:00 AM PDT by GeorgeKant
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Same reason the British and Euros did: Because that’s where the resources are.


24 posted on 09/01/2007 9:08:19 AM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody was going to say it...why not me?)
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To: JACKRUSSELL
Quote from article: "Like all empires, China's economic domain in Africa is stirring deep resentment. The wonder is that it has happened so quickly, and where the scramble will end."

I would think being forced to surrender or suffer annihilation as the British imposed once would stir resentment instanteously.
25 posted on 09/01/2007 9:10:51 AM PDT by GeorgeKant
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To: JACKRUSSELL

By the time the ChiComs are through with them the Africans will be begging the European colonial powers to return.

Generally, the Chinese have zero morality when it comes to black people. They are much more racist than whites and have no political correctness to restrain them


26 posted on 09/01/2007 9:12:39 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: JACKRUSSELL
Beijing must find more raw materials and new markets for manufactured goods

You can't sell to people who have no money and who are barely existing.

27 posted on 09/01/2007 9:44:46 AM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

lol!


28 posted on 09/01/2007 11:13:57 AM PDT by ken21
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To: Bender2

If Africans thought the WHITE man was a racist colonialist,just wait till they get a taste of Chinese Imperialism and racism!


29 posted on 09/01/2007 11:37:58 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: dennisw

Exactly.I remeber back in the Eighties when Chinese students held mass demonstrations demanding the expulsion of”Black Devils”from their universities,the so called Black Devils being African exchange students.


30 posted on 09/01/2007 11:40:36 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Market for cheap stuff. Chinese cars are popular in Africa.


31 posted on 09/01/2007 11:41:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: dennisw
Generally, the Chinese have zero morality when it comes to black people. They are much more racist than whites and have no political correctness to restrain them

That struck me as a pretty racist comment.
32 posted on 09/01/2007 2:58:42 PM PDT by GeorgeKant
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To: GeorgeKant; dennisw; All
There are many racist Asians1--and there are many racist Europeans.

And Latinos, and Africans.....

What is extremely ludicrous--and, yes, even infuriating--is the idea prevalently floating around FR that Europeans are such saints2. Their empires were as much about exploitation as the Chinese are doing now, and the extent was far larger. The Chinese are building infrastructure for Africa, giving aid, giving funding; similar to the very few 'good' things given by European powers to their colonies, without the insult of taking them over and looking down on them, even if with condescension or paternalism. Nor are the Chinese carrying out genocide nor do they have a policy of racism which circulates in respected circles. Their racism is basically the same racism you find on FR--prejudiced views, but not the mainstream, accepted, quasi-sanctioned one. Europeans did do those things, however. The closest you could pin on the Chinese is doing business with Sudan and therefore facilitating genocide in Darfur.

And if this is not clear to some, this argument is not to type that Europeans are any more racist or bad than other people, but is to type that they are not any more noble or honorable, or otherwise 'good,' than other people.

Any good to have come out of European dominance for the last few centuries is down to the Europeans' religion, Christianity, and not something innate to Europeans themselves. Indeed, before the advent of Christianity, much of northern Europe was as savage as some of the most barbaric cultures on Earth today.

As the light of Christianity seems to be fading in Europe and even the United States, and the light seems to be shining ever more brightly in Africa and especially Asia, maybe racists in a distant future3 will be typing of how great and grand, and magnanimous--to use the word of another freeper--the Asian and African races were in the past when their empires4 were dominant over humanity, and those pathetic Europeans should shut up and accept how kind and beneficent the Africans' and Asians' enlightened rules were over them.

If that is the case, they would be as off target as the one common on FR--and apparently among many Europeans--glorifying the European race, because if good came from Asian or African rule, that good would have also come because of Christianity, not from an innate trait in either 'race.'

Romans 3:10-12.5


1Asian descendants, European descendants, African descendants.
2Of the Roman Catholic or Orthodox variety. Actually 'saint' could be synonymous with 'Christian.'
3Completely hypothetical, of course.
4Actual empires, not the 'empires' as the one in this thread's article.
5All includes Europeans. And Asians. And Africans. And Latinos. And....

33 posted on 09/02/2007 3:08:11 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

You are crazy. Chinese are more racist than Americans and Europeans. No political correctness over in China and Asia. Japanese are also very racist when it comes to blacks

Di you miss the part where they are funding brutal wars in Drafur and elsewhere in Africa? They don’t care how many Africans die in Darfur. That’s racist enough for most Ameriacsns.


34 posted on 09/02/2007 8:26:22 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: ken21
will any american university professors step forward and denounce this as chinese imperialism?

You may be right in your implied double standards by the academic elite. But then again, the flip side is, the plight of Sudan was barely on the minds of many until China became involved.

I've mentioned the plight of what is going on in Sudan many a times on the FR before and have been called a bleeding heart liberal (which I am not). However, now that China is in the equation, Sudan suddenly gets notice here.

For many on this board, the concern isn't so much for Africa as it is that China is expanding her influence in the world. And what is happening in Africa is a convenient reason to confront China.

35 posted on 09/02/2007 1:52:28 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: dennisw; Jedi Master Pikachu
Agree with dennisw. Asian and most Southern and Eastern European countries have zero tolerance towards Africans and nada as far as Political Correctness goes towards foreigners. Does anyone remember the Nanjing anti-African protests?
36 posted on 09/05/2007 7:57:40 AM PDT by peterpaul12345
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To: dennisw; Jedi Master Pikachu
Agree with dennisw. Asian and most Southern and Eastern European countries have zero tolerance towards Africans and nada as far as Political Correctness goes towards foreigners. Does anyone remember the Nanjing anti-African protests?
37 posted on 09/05/2007 7:57:59 AM PDT by peterpaul12345
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To: dennisw; Jedi Master Pikachu
Agree with dennisw. Asian and most Southern and Eastern European countries have zero tolerance towards Africans and nada as far as Political Correctness goes towards foreigners. Does anyone remember the Nanjing anti-African protests?
38 posted on 09/05/2007 7:58:10 AM PDT by peterpaul12345
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To: dennisw; Jedi Master Pikachu
Agree with dennisw. Asian and most Southern and Eastern European countries have zero tolerance towards Africans and nada as far as Political Correctness goes towards foreigners. Does anyone remember the Nanjing anti-African protests?
39 posted on 09/05/2007 7:58:26 AM PDT by peterpaul12345
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To: dennisw; Jedi Master Pikachu
Agree with dennisw. Asian and most Southern and Eastern European countries have zero tolerance towards Africans and nada as far as Political Correctness goes towards foreigners. Does anyone remember the Nanjing anti-African protests?
40 posted on 09/05/2007 7:59:04 AM PDT by peterpaul12345
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