Posted on 09/03/2007 10:54:47 PM PDT by Exton1
Check this out later this week, to hear about the NAFTA railroad.
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Why should corps be treated any differently then small business or joe citizen?
However, to counter your shilling for NAU and NAFTA, as you wear your rose-colored glasses, all Americans know that this economy sucks, that manufacturing jobs are going overseas, every time they have to be retrained for yet another job, all across America, because the good paying job they once had in the manufacturing industry is gone....and that is also having a devastating effect on local economies
Indeed, the actual number of manufacturing jobs has fallen by half since 1970. ... Most people today work in services: in America, as many as 80%. But this trend is hardly new. As early as 1900, America and Britain already had more jobs in services than in industry. Even at its peak, early in the 20th century, employment in manufacturing never exceeded one-third of America's workforce. What is new is the recent absolute decline in factory employment. Although manufacturing has long been shrinking as a proportion of America's expanding workforce, the number of industrial jobs stayed more or less the same between 1970 and the late 1990s. Since then, however, manufacturing employment has fallen in every year. Chart 2 shows that since 1996 the number of manufacturing jobs has shrunk by close to one-fifth in America, Britain and Japan. In the euro zone, the average loss has been only 5%. Similarly, manufacturing output has fallen as a proportion of GDP (measured in current prices)...
They enjoy laughing at idiots who use far left wing sources and claim to be conservative.
Doofus, you claimed manufacturing production has declined. Prove it.
Already have.
bye now, NAU shill.
Do you understand the difference between "industrial production falling as a proportion of GDP" and "industrial production falling"? LOL!
Debating with you is like shooting dead fish in a barrel.
I agree, the government shouldn't tell corporations, small business or joe citizen who they can hire or where they can be located.
you think you are able to debate, toad?
foflol!
not!
And you're casting stones at Toddsterpatiot's sources?
EPI Board of Directors
Chairman of the Board
Gerald W. McEntee
President, American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees
Secretary-Treasurer
Julianne Malveaux
Economist, writer, syndicated columnist; owner, Last Word Productions
Lawrence Mishel
President, Economic Policy Institute
Jeff Faux
Founding President/Distinguished Fellow, Economic Policy Institute
Barry Bluestone
Professor of Political Economy, Director for Urban & Regional Policy, Northeastern University
R. Thomas Buffenbarger
President, International Association of Machinists
Larry Cohen
President, Communications Workers of America
Ernesto J. Cortes, Jr.
Director, Industrial Areas Foundation—social policy think tank
Leo W. Gerard
President, United Steelworkers of America
Ron Gettelfinger
President, International United Auto Workers
Robert Kuttner
Editor, The American Prospect; author, columnist, Business Week, New Republic
Ray Marshall
LBJ School of Public Affairs, University of Texas; former Secretary of Labor
Edward J. McElroy
President, American Federation of Teachers
Jules O. Pagano
Vice President, American Income Life Insurance Company
Bernard Rapoport
Chairman of the Board, American Income Life Insurance Company
Bruce Raynor
President, UNITE (Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees)
Robert B. Reich
Distinguished Visiting Scholar Goldman School of Public Policy UC, Berkeley; former Secretary of Labor
Andrew L. Stern
President, Service Employees International Union
Richard L. Trumka
Secretary-Treasurer, AFL-CIO
Are these your people? As you look down this list do you find anyone who may have a vested interest in misrepresenting the truth about NAFTA?
So, because those people, that you don’t like, are stating information, it must not be true. I could care less if Hitler said that America has become a service industry, rather than a manufacturing economy....it’s still true.
foflol.
Sorry, Americans know that manufacturing jobs have gone south of the border and on to China.
You think we should be able to import goods made with slave labor? I disagree.
As far as pollution, you should ask the citizens if they prefer the pollution or the jobs.
We do it right here in America when we don't let them hire illegal immigrant slave labor.
I think illegals should be sent back, but I thought we were talking about workers in other countries?
Exactly. That's why I think we should encourage manufacturers to stay in America.
Excellent, as long as were making American goods cheaper instead of making foreign goods more expensive.
I showed that you have no source proving that American manufacturing production has fallen since NAFTA. But proving you wrong is easy.
Then I wouldn’t suggest anyone support the candidates who are members of the Council on Foreign Relations.
CFR is a pro-globalism organization that supports policy to that end.
Candidates or possible future candidates who are members of the CFR or have made presentations before the CFR:
Democrat CFR Candidates:
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
Republican CFR Candidates:
Mitt Romney
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Fred Thompson
Newt Gingrich
Do your research folks.....if you want more of the same, vote for either of these candidates.
The CFR is NOT the average American Joe’s friend.
toad, all you’ve posted are your opinions.
And, you know what they say about opinions (especially yours).
bttt!
It is my opinion that you have no source to back up your assertion.
Did you take your disinformation lessons from Baghdad Bob?
You need more; at least he was funny.
I’m not a big CFR fan myself. It is amazing though how many are actually members. It’s rather difficult to find a candidate near the top who isn’t.
I’m sorry that I pointed out your error.
You'd probably be surprised to learn that China has "lost" five times more manufacturing jobs than we have. Some people like to blame these losses on bogeymen like NAFTA. More knowledgeable people understand that automation and the resulting increases in productivity are responsible for those job losses.
We produce more today with less people which is why manufacturing wages continue to increase in the US.
It's pretty difficult to increase wages without increasing productivity.
I'll be you and your friends at EPI lament the fact that we don't have half our population working in agriculture any longer. No doubt the Luddites back then shared the same feelings you have today. Thankfully, most people are paying attention to the facts rather than your feelings.
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