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Germans Arrest 3, Thwart "Imminent Threat"
AP via CBS News ^ | Sept. 5, 2007

Posted on 09/05/2007 12:05:48 AM PDT by james500

Three men have been arrested for planning attacks on Frankfurt's international airport and the U.S. military base in Ramstein, the German Defense Minister said Wednesday.

"There was an imminent threat," Franz Josef Jung told Germany's ARD broadcaster. He declined to elaborate.

Two of the suspects had German citizenship while the third was Pakistani, Germany's Sudwestrundfunk public broadcaster said.

German federal prosecutors said they had arrested three suspected members of "an Islamic motivated terrorist organization." It was not immediately clear whether the three were suspected of having links to al Qaeda.

Sudwestrundfunk said the men were arrested Tuesday evening and were close to carrying out the attacks. German and U.S. officials have warned of the possibility of a terrorist attack, and security measures have been raised, they said.

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1 posted on 09/05/2007 12:05:51 AM PDT by james500
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To: james500

Are those Rotarians at it again!??


2 posted on 09/05/2007 12:20:30 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: james500

Those crazy Amish! Probably a “buggy bomb” or somesuch.


3 posted on 09/05/2007 12:21:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Our next president: Fred Thompson!! http://www.ImWithFred.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the devices were in the pies...who knew


4 posted on 09/05/2007 12:22:08 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: All; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla

A few more details...

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2765971,00.html

Terrorism | 05.09.2007
“Suspected Terrorists Arrested in Germany”

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “German Defense Minister Franz-Josef Jung has confirmed that three people were arrested late Tuesday on suspicion of planning terror attacks on Frankfurt Airport and the US military base at Ramstein.

Quoting security sources in Berlin, SWR public radio reported that two German nationals and a Pakistani had been planning to bomb the international airport in Frankfurt, and the US military base at Ramstein in western Germany.

Plans to carry out an attack were allegedly well-advanced.

Referring to “an imminent threat,” Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung confirmed the arrests later on public broadcaster ARD, but refused to go into detail.

“The security services have done a very good job and I can’t say anything more at this point,” he said.

The Federal Prosecutor’s Office in Karlsruhe has also confirmed the arrests, stating that the three detainees are believed to be members of an Islamist terrorist cell.

“Raids have taken place in several German states,” the official added.””


5 posted on 09/05/2007 12:26:38 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: advertising guy

Only thee and me, Mordachi! LOL


6 posted on 09/05/2007 12:27:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Our next president: Fred Thompson!! http://www.ImWithFred.com)
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To: All; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla

A few more details...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6979295.stm

Last Updated: Wednesday, 5 September 2007, 07:27 GMT 08:27 UK

“Three held in German terror raids”

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “Reports said that two of the suspects were German while the third was Pakistani.

Government sources told the AFP news agency that the three had links to Pakistan and had been experimenting with explosives and trying to build car bombs.

Prosecutors said the arrests took place on Tuesday afternoon.”


7 posted on 09/05/2007 12:31:10 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500

Sounds like quick police work prevented barbecued frankfurters.


8 posted on 09/05/2007 12:34:15 AM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: All; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla

A few more details...

http://www.eux.tv/article.aspx?articleId=13852

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 08:12
Subject: /Germany-Terrorism/

“2ND LEAD: Bomb plot against airports in Germany uncovered; 3 arrested
Eds: Adds confirmation, details from prosecutors office”

Berlin (dpa) -

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “The terrorist plans had been at an advanced stage, the report said, citing security sources in Berlin.

Two of those arrested hold German passports and the other is a Pakistani, it added.

The prosecutors office in Karlsruhe said later that searches had been carried out in a number of German states and the suspects should appear before a judge Wednesday.”


9 posted on 09/05/2007 12:36:35 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

gotcha back too


10 posted on 09/05/2007 12:39:52 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: All

Related thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1891319/posts

#

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0905/germany.html

“Three held in German bomb plot”
Wednesday, 5 September 2007 07:48

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “Three people have been arrested in Germany on suspicion of planning terror attacks.

Two of the suspects were Germans who had converted to Islam while the third held Turkish and German passports.

The sources said the three all had links to Pakistan and that they had been experimenting with explosives and trying to build car bombs.”


11 posted on 09/05/2007 12:40:59 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500
Here is a picture of the ingrate islamo-scoundrels being driven off by the Germans in a bus

all aboard

12 posted on 09/05/2007 12:41:14 AM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment..)
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Off Topic, but interesting...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1890027/posts?page=77#77


13 posted on 09/05/2007 12:46:27 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500

not because Deutschland is in Iraq is it?/s


14 posted on 09/05/2007 12:57:31 AM PDT by Mac1
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To: Dog

Here we go . . .


15 posted on 09/05/2007 12:57:45 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: All

Travel.State.Gov - Consular Information Sheet: “GERMANY”
http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1123.html


16 posted on 09/05/2007 12:59:30 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500

Wonder when we’re going to get around to banning Islamic immigration.


17 posted on 09/05/2007 12:59:59 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Rudy = Hillary, Fred = Dole, Romney = Kerry, McCain = Crazy. No Thanks.)
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To: All

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500244.html

“Three held in Germany over attack plot”

By Erik Kirschbaum
Reuters
Wednesday, September 5, 2007; 3:16 AM

BERLIN (Reuters) -

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “Earlier, the SWR network quoted security sources in Berlin as saying two of the suspects were German nationals and one had a Pakistani passport.

German television reported that explosive materials had been found in an apartment in a town in the northern state of Hesse. It said the planning was at an advanced stage.”


18 posted on 09/05/2007 1:10:31 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Old_Mil

I wonder if their attack plan entailed running a van or SUV into one of Ramstein’s heavily guarded entrances, and after being disabled in a hail of FMJ, pouring gasoline on themselves and lighting their car on fire.

Just like the inspiring June 30th “Battle Of Glasgow” and the “Seige Of Camp Picadilly and Fort Tiger Tiger” in London.


19 posted on 09/05/2007 1:16:19 AM PDT by angkor
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To: All

Off Topic - Trivia Tidbit:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,502694,00.html

August 29, 2007

Font:

“SPIEGEL ONLINE INTERVIEW WITH RACISM EXPERT
‘Awareness of Ethnic Discrimination Is Low in Germany’
SPIEGEL ONLINE talks to racism expert Nicole Bosch about xenophobia in Germany and what can be done to combat right-wing extremism.”

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “SPIEGEL ONLINE: Is racism a particular problem in certain parts of Germany?

Bosch: Concerning the number of right-wing extremist violent crimes, the figures show that eastern Germany tends to be more affected by such crimes than western Germany. In 2005, the highest numbers of such crimes in relation to the total population were recorded in Saxony-Anhalt, where there were 4.29 crimes per 100,000 inhabitants, and Brandenburg (3.78 crimes per 100,000 inhabitants), which are both in eastern Germany. In contrast, the western German states of Hesse and Rhineland-Palatinate displayed the lowest figures, with 0.41 and 0.59 crimes per 100,000 inhabitants, respectively. However, these figures cannot simply be interpreted as meaning there is more or less racism in eastern or western Germany.”


20 posted on 09/05/2007 1:18:26 AM PDT by Cindy
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More Details...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/09/05/germany.terrorarrests/index.html?iref=newssearch

“3 held over German ‘airport plots’”

BERLIN, Germany (CNN) —

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “At U.S. European Command in Stuttgart, Capt. Jeff Gradec said German authorities had alerted them of a possible terrorist threat to American installations, but not specifically Ramstein.

Gradec said EUCOM had no plans to raise its force protection levels in light of the plots.”


21 posted on 09/05/2007 1:26:26 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500

One thing I have recently noticed when cruising DU to compare the takes on stories between here and there is this. When commenting on the same stories dealing with foiled plots anywhere in the world they will often put things like the phrase immenent threat in quotation marks, but for a completely different reason. It is done to show contempt and to mock the idea that the U.S. or any other country is really threatened. The comments, as you might expect, lean toward any threat as having been manufactured by government(s) to keep the publics attention of important issues like universal health care and other progressive habits. LOL! Just the usual proof that they do not get it, and never will.


22 posted on 09/05/2007 1:28:30 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: All; Jet Jaguar; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; nwctwx

More Details...

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/international/ticker/detail/Germany_arrests_3_for_alleged_plot_against_airport.html?siteSect=143&sid=8172179&cKey=1188980540000&ty=ti

September 5, 2007 - 8:05 AM
“Germany arrests 3 for alleged plot against airport”
By Erik Kirschbaum

BERLIN (Reuters) -
ARTICLE SNIPPET: “Another German network reported that shots had been fired when police raided a house in a town in the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia.

SEPT. 11 ANNIVERSARY

“There are clear indications that at a minimum Ramstein and the Frankfurt airport were possible targets and that they would not have waited long to strike,” leading conservative politician Wolfgang Bosbach told German television station N24.

He said the plot may have been timed to coincide with the anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States.”


23 posted on 09/05/2007 1:47:55 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500

The West is committing suicide by allowing Muslim “immigrants” into our countries.


24 posted on 09/05/2007 1:51:06 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: All

More Details...

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/09/05/ap4082279.html
(AP)

Associated Press
“Germany: 3 Terror Suspects Arrested”
By DAVID McHUGH 09.05.07, 4:14 AM ET

BERLIN -

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “German and U.S. officials have warned of the possibility of a terrorist attack, and security measures have been increased. Navy Capt. Jeff Gradeck, spokesman for the U.S. military’s European Command in Stuttgart, said German authorities had contacted them concerning the alleged plot, but had no further information.

“We extend our gratitude to Germany for their efforts in protecting us,” Gradeck said.

The group had been under observation by authorities for many months and all three men are considered radical Islamists with contacts to terror cells abroad, Der Spiegel reported online.

Authorities decided to move in on the group after members were observed moving a stock of chemicals easily obtainable in Germany, but which can be used for making a bomb, from a storehouse to another, Der Spiegel said.”


25 posted on 09/05/2007 1:52:05 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

More Details...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=a6o9vaqjmiW0&refer=germany

“German Police Arrest Three Islamist Terror Suspects (Update3)”
By Brian Parkin

Sept. 5 (Bloomberg) —

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “`Home-Grown Problem’

``This is a home-grown problem, it’s no longer jihadists trained in Osama bin Laden’s camps,’’ said Karl-Heinz Kamp, security policy coordinator at the Berlin-based Konrad Adenauer Foundation, which has links to Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union.

``The good news is that our preventive mechanisms have become very efficient — this plot was still in its very early stages,’’ Kamp said in an interview.

Police secured explosives during the arrests, SWR said. The leader is a German convert to Islam living in the southwestern city of Ulm, the radio station said.

The arrests may be connected to arrests by Danish police of eight ``militant Islamists’’ yesterday, the HR public radio station said, without saying where it got the information.”

Last Updated: September 5, 2007 04:48 EDT


26 posted on 09/05/2007 2:06:51 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500

Damnit Germany, this should teach you that you never should have participated in the invasion and occupation of Iraq!! Hope you’ve all learned your lesson..... /s


27 posted on 09/05/2007 2:08:19 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Dog; Cindy

“The arrests may be connected to arrests by Danish police of eight ‘militant Islamists’ yesterday, the HR public radio station said, without saying where it got the information.”

Dog, this is what I was saying. And . . .

“. . . this plot was still in its very early stages . . .”

Maybe, but other reports suggest there was timing for 11 September.

Cindy, thanks very much for your updates!


28 posted on 09/05/2007 2:16:46 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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Updating the details regarding the damage the bombs would have caused.
Updating the details (for clarification) of the nationality of the suspects.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6979295.stm

ast Updated: Wednesday, 5 September 2007, 09:10 GMT 10:10 UK

“Three held in German terror raids”

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “Wolfgang Bosbach, an MP with Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats, said the suspects had been under observation for a long time.

“We know without any doubt that they were planning attacks that would have had considerable consequences,” he told Germany’s N24 television, adding that the three had acquired chemicals for the plot.

He said the plot may have been timed to coincide with the anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks in the US.

‘Major targets’

Reports said that two of the suspects were German while the third was Pakistani.

Government sources told the AFP news agency that the three had links to Pakistan and had been experimenting with explosives and trying to build car bombs.”


29 posted on 09/05/2007 2:18:47 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cap Huff

You’re welcome Cap Huff.


30 posted on 09/05/2007 2:19:46 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
The group had been under observation by authorities for many months and all three men are considered radical Islamists with contacts to terror cells abroad, Der Spiegel reported online.

Gee, I sure hope they had FISA warrants. < /sarcasm> Things that give the New York Times vapors are done as a matter of course by all the intelligence agencies of every other country in the world, including Sweden, France and Canada.

31 posted on 09/05/2007 2:49:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Wry smile...

OPINION: The liberal lame-stream media is quite capable of getting the ‘vapors” at the drop of pin.


32 posted on 09/05/2007 2:53:10 AM PDT by Cindy
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Off Topic, but Interesting.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2763946,00.html

Terrorism | 05.09.2007
“Red Army Faction: A Chronology of Terror”


33 posted on 09/05/2007 2:59:09 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500

We had better raise the threat level in the US and frisk more old men and women at airports. /s


34 posted on 09/05/2007 3:13:51 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: Cindy
I live and work in the German state of Hessen (at a military base not mentioned in the article). I've been told that the crime rate is very low due to the sometimes aggressive tactics of the German police (polizei) which would be considered police brutality in the U.S. I'm all for harsh treatment of criminals.
35 posted on 09/05/2007 3:32:57 AM PDT by tlj18 (Keep your eye on China....)
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To: tlj18

Thank you for your service for our country.


36 posted on 09/05/2007 3:36:28 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: james500

http://www.dada.net/video/954498/Striptease-no-Iraque/


37 posted on 09/05/2007 3:37:27 AM PDT by Peelod (I do renounce Hillary! and all her pomps and works.)
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To: Cindy

Thanks.


38 posted on 09/05/2007 3:39:50 AM PDT by tlj18 (Keep your eye on China....)
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To: backhoe; piasa; JohnathanRGalt; All

More Details...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=apVs3qKsJzQI&refer=germany

“Germany Foils `Massive’ Bomb Attack, Prosecutor Says (Update1)”
By Brian Parkin and Claudia Rach

Sept. 5 (Bloomberg) —

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “The suspects, two Germans and a Turkish national, are alleged members of a local cell of the Islamist terrorist organization Jihad Union, Harms told reporters today in the southern city of Karlsruhe.

``Today is a good day for German security,’’ Harms said.

The alleged terrorists planned attacks on sites frequented by U.S. citizens among others, including discos, bars and transport facilities, Harms said. The peroxide-based liquid explosives were equivalent to 550 kilograms of TNT, greater explosive power than in the London bombings of July 2005, Joerg Ziercke, head of the Federal Criminal Office, told the same press conference.

The arrest of the alleged bombers took place yesterday after police raids on 41 sites across the country. Those arrested represented the ``core’’ of a group that includes further suspects, Ziercke said.”


39 posted on 09/05/2007 3:59:38 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22JIHAD+UNION%22&btnG=Google+Search


40 posted on 09/05/2007 4:04:27 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

Did we avoid the next massacre ?

“imminent threat”, “american target”, of what could have been the “largest attack on German soil”

It is consistent with THIS :

ISLAMISTS PREDICT ATTACKS AGAINST AMERICA ON 9/11, 2007

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890829/posts


41 posted on 09/05/2007 4:07:53 AM PDT by drzz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most likely they were Lutherans since it was in Germany


42 posted on 09/05/2007 4:10:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: All; Jet Jaguar; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla

More Details...

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jGbU6dEXD4p3ZicM8uWUZ8wkxJgg

“German officials: 3 terror suspects arrested for plotting attacks”
1 minute ago

BERLIN (AP) —

ARTICLE SNIPPET: “Officials said the 35 per cent solution of hydrogen peroxide, stored in a hideout, could have been mixed with other additives to produce a bomb with the explosive power of 550 kilograms of TNT.

“This would have enabled them to make bombs with more explosive power than the ones used in the London and Madrid bombings,” Joerg Ziercke, the head of Germany’s Federal Crime Office, said at a joint news conference with Harms.

The three suspects - two Germans and a Turk - first came to the attention of authorities because they had been observing a U.S. military facility at the end of 2006, officials said. All three had undergone training at camps in Pakistan run by the Islamic Jihad Union, and had formed a German cell of the group.

The Islamic Jihad Union was described as a Sunni Muslim group based in Central Asia that was an offshoot of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, an extremist group with origins in that country.

A top legislator said an attack could have occurred “in a few days,” noting a “sensitive period” that includes the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.”


43 posted on 09/05/2007 4:21:37 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

ISLAMIC JIHAD UNION

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22ISLAMIC+JIHAD+UNION%22&btnG=Google+Search

#

http://www.nps.edu/Library/Research/SubjectGuides/SpecialTopics/TerroristProfile/Current/IJU.html

#

http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=4582


44 posted on 09/05/2007 4:24:10 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Old_Mil

“Odd” that in the 1990s, Germany saw Scientology as a threat.


45 posted on 09/05/2007 4:31:39 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Bogtrotter52

“the timing is suspicious”.

Wonder what they made of the Florida guys in South Carolina who were eventually busted for terrorism even though they claimed their car full of pipe bombs was just to “celebrate” one of the guy’s (the Egyptian or the Pakistani’s) birthday. For weeks the FBI denied terrorism but eventually their computers came into play.


46 posted on 09/05/2007 4:34:20 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: james500; drzz; Cindy

Thanks for posting. Thank for the link. Thanks again for all of your work, Cindy.


47 posted on 09/05/2007 4:35:31 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: drzz

drzz - “Did we avoid the next massacre?”

Hi Drzz.
This is a GREAT bust.
I am very happy about it.

I said this yesterday and still hold this opinion:

No special thoughts on my part.

Jihad is everyday and the jihad is global.
If there is a window of opportunity and the means;
the jihadis will attack.
Children are encouraged to go for jihad.
Recruiting is heavy for jihad.
The jihad propaganda is very thick on the internet.

As for 9/11/01; it is a reminder of 1 jihad attack.

How many more attacks will occur in America?
I don’t know.

Is there an attack pending (somewhere in the world)?

Probably.

It feels like 9/10/01 to me.

191 posted on 09/04/2007 4:04:42 PM PDT by Cindy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890027/posts?page=191#191


48 posted on 09/05/2007 4:36:20 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: PGalt

You’re always welcome P Galt.
I like happy news and to see prevention work.


49 posted on 09/05/2007 4:37:48 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Pictures from SPIEGEL.de



Road block near the suspected terrorists appartment



Building where one of the terrorists lived



Special units (BKA / GSG 9) search the area



Islamic center in Ulm, known for radical activities, sticker says "Islam is peace".



Chemicals, enough to produce bombs the equivalent of 550 kilos of TNT (half a ton!)



Attorney General Monika Harms



One of the suspects taken to court by helicopter



Special units guarding the man



Official statement "Determined to carry out attacks"



At BGH court in Karlsruhe



Ramstein air base



Frankfurt airport, one of the largest in the world


Video (in German): http://www.spiegel.de/videoplayer/0,6298,21388,00.html
50 posted on 09/05/2007 4:39:48 AM PDT by wolf78 (Penn & Teller Libertarian - Equal Opportunity Offender)
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