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Chertoff warns meddling 'sanctuary cities'
The Washington Times ^ | September 6, 2007 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 09/06/2007 2:34:18 AM PDT by Stoat

Chertoff warns meddling 'sanctuary cities'
 


September 6, 2007
By Audrey Hudson - Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff yesterday told a House panel that his agency will not tolerate interference by so-called "sanctuary cities" when it comes to hiring illegal aliens.

Mr. Chertoff said his agency will enforce the Basic Pilot Program that requires businesses to check the legal status of new employees by matching Social Security numbers and information in Homeland Security Department databases.

Mr. Chertoff told the House Homeland Security Committee: "I certainly wouldn't tolerate interference" by cities who attempt to block the program.

"We're exploring our legal options," Mr. Chertoff said. "I intend to take as vigorous legal action as the law allows to prevent that from happening, prevent that kind of interference."

Mr. Chertoff stopped short of threatening "sanctuary cities" by withholding government funding.

"I don't know that I have the authority to cut off all Homeland Security funds if I disagree with the city's policy on immigration," Mr. Chertoff said. "And of course, I have to say the consequence of that might be to put the citizens at risk, you know, in the event of a natural disaster.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; chertoff; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; sanctuary; sanctuarycities; waronterror; wot
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"I don't know that I have the authority to cut off all Homeland Security funds if I disagree with the city's policy on immigration," Mr. Chertoff said

 

"sigh"

1 posted on 09/06/2007 2:34:19 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: All
DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff

Secretary: Michael Chertoff

Secretary: Michael Chertoff

Secretary: Michael Chertoff

On February 15, 2005, Judge Michael Chertoff was sworn in as the second Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. Chertoff formerly served as United States Circuit Judge for the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.

Secretary Chertoff was previously confirmed by the Senate to serve in the Bush Administration as Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division at the Department of Justice. As Assistant Attorney General, he helped trace the 9/11 terrorist attacks to the al-Qaida network, and worked to increase information sharing within the FBI and with state and local officials.

Before joining the Bush Administration, Chertoff was a Partner in the law firm of Latham & Watkins. From 1994 to 1996, he served as Special Counsel for the U.S. Senate Whitewater Committee.

Prior to that, Chertoff spent more than a decade as a federal prosecutor, including service as U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, First Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, and Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. As United States Attorney, Chertoff investigated and prosecuted several significant cases of political corruption, organized crime, and corporate fraud.

Chertoff graduated magna cum laude from Harvard College in 1975 and magna cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1978. From 1979-1980 he served as a clerk to Supreme Court Justice William Brennan, Jr.

Secretary Chertoff is married to Meryl Justin Chertoff and has two children.

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Washington, D.C. 20528

 

 

 

2 posted on 09/06/2007 2:41:50 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

How would you like to have Chertoff sitting across from you at the “interrogation table”?


3 posted on 09/06/2007 2:54:09 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: nygoose
How would you like to have Chertoff sitting across from you at the “interrogation table”?

LMAO!

Well, If I was the one being interrogated, I tend to doubt that it would be a particularly 'rough' interrogation.  It sounds as though his demeanor would cause him to stop a particular line of questioning if I were to respond with something on the order of "Ummm....you really don't need that information from me."

If I was the one doing the interrogating, I am guessing that I would be quickly arrested and thrown in jail for "Humiliating the Secretary and Making Him Cry".

((((((snicker))))))

4 posted on 09/06/2007 3:03:00 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat; nygoose

"You say illegal aliens are attempting to murder ICE agents, are setting fire to
forests and fields along the border to distract US Border Patrol Agents to make
their crossing easier, and throwing Molotov cocktails at US agents’ vehicles, and
setting fire to their observation posts? "

"I'm the Homeland Security Chief. What do you want me to do about it? "

5 posted on 09/06/2007 3:20:31 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Stoat
Message to Secretary Chertoff: Please, please, please... make Takoma Park, Maryland the first sanctuary city that you smack around for not helping ICE locate and remove illegal aliens.

My hometown has long been overtaken, first by hippies, then communists (former mayor Sam Abbott, who made TP a Nuclear Free Zone in 1983), and then illegal aliens (made a sanctuary city in 1984, IIRC).

6 posted on 09/06/2007 3:22:42 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: Stoat

Can you believe this, from later in the article?

“We do worry about the fact that someone could get a lease or occupy a private plane overseas and then use that as a way to smuggle in a dirty bomb or a weapon of mass destruction into the United States. We do worry that having locked the front door, so to speak, against dangerous containers, someone could simply put the dangerous cargo in a private oceangoing vessel and take it into a U.S. port,” Mr. Chertoff said.

In the meantime, here come the trucks!


7 posted on 09/06/2007 3:56:17 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Stoat

Chetoff is 100% doing the bidding of his lord and savior Gog W. Bush.


8 posted on 09/06/2007 3:59:40 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: hlmencken3

Bush is his BOSS - not his lord and savior - - which I interpret as a religious slur.


9 posted on 09/06/2007 4:13:36 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Stoat
". . . if I disagree with the city's policy on immigration"

Uhh, don't all the pro-amnesty, open-borders clowns insist that immigration is solely a federal responsibility?

Morons.

10 posted on 09/06/2007 5:06:23 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Stoat
I'll just throw this in, from 1999 on the IIRIRA...

In the Supreme Court of the United States CITY OF NEW YORK, ET AL., PETITIONERS v. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ET AL. ON PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT

11 posted on 09/06/2007 5:10:10 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Stoat

Memo to Chertoff: Sorry, Charlie Tuna, but I don’t believe one single word of your Bravo Sierra. Not one word. You and your fellow RINOs have lied to us on this issue too many times.


12 posted on 09/06/2007 5:11:40 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: Stoat
Again and again Michael Chertoff admits that he has no idea how to do his job. We really do need somebody else. He embarrasses the country. Wasn’t he close to Rudolph Giuliani?
13 posted on 09/06/2007 5:11:56 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: tgslTakoma

bttt


14 posted on 09/06/2007 5:14:04 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: apocalypto
I don't know about his relationship with Giuliani, but Chertoff was the one US atty that Toon didn't fire....
15 posted on 09/06/2007 5:18:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

That should have been a clue. I would sleep better if somebody well informed and concerned about national security replaced him.


16 posted on 09/06/2007 5:20:12 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: apocalypto
He embarrasses the country.

He has the appearance of a "Stall foot-shuffler"......or a "wondering eyed urinal stalker"....

17 posted on 09/06/2007 5:20:38 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: cbkaty

We shouldn’t shoot the messenger, though. Chertoff’s doing what 43 wants. The buck stops with the president.


18 posted on 09/06/2007 5:22:09 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: hlmencken3
I’m an originalist on the “general welfare” clause.

The Founding Fathers used that term to denote a public works that would truly be used by all: roads (especially interstate, intrastate were left to the states), bridges, military.

They did not use it as it has been used by collectivists: welfare handouts, socialized medicine, eminent domain to confiscate homes, tear them down, and replace them with a private business for increased tax revenue.

19 posted on 09/06/2007 5:23:04 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: nygoose

You got that right.

He is the Spectre, living death. I think he could scare a terrorist into paradise merely by being across the table.


20 posted on 09/06/2007 5:23:07 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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To: Stoat; blackie; gubamyster; All

Nice take on this by Jack Kinsella today. Thanks to blackie!

Chertoff’s Immigration “Options”

Last week, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff testified before Congress about the problem of illegal immigration. When asked about the problem of so-called ‘sanctuary cities’ Chertoff told lawmakers, “I don’t know that I have the authority to cut off all Homeland Security funds if I disagree with the city’s policy on immigration. . . We’re exploring our legal options.”

Sanctuary cities are those that have adopted policies banning police officers or other city employees from asking about immigration status. Some sanctuary cities have gone further: The city of New Haven, Conn., now issues identification cards regardless of legal status.

Other “sanctuary cities” include the District, Baltimore, New York City, San Francisco, Dallas, Minneapolis, Miami and Denver.

Since Secretary Chertoff is a busy man, I thought I’d save him all that exploration time and lay out the ‘legal options’ for him. First off, if the Secretary of Homeland Security doesn’t have the authority to cut off Homeland Security funds from scofflaw cities, who does?

In the second place, it isn’t an issue of whether or not Chertoff ‘agrees’ with a ‘city’s policy on immigration. Either that policy is lawful, or it is unlawful.

In the US legal system, criminal behavior is divided into two main classes of offense; felonies and misdemeanors.

In general, misdemeanor crimes are crimes for which the maximum punishment is short enough to serve in a county jail — in most jurisdictions, one year or less. Misdemeanor crimes range from jaywalking to first-offense drunk driving.

Felonies, on the other hand, are crimes for which the maximum punishment is confinement in a long-term state or federal penitentiary. Historically, a felony conviction resulted in a forfeiture of property, dismemberment or death.

A state or federal felony conviction today can lead to prison time, probation, fines, restitution, community service, mandatory drug or other rehabilitative treatment, and forfeiture of various legal rights (including the right to vote, serve on a jury, hold government positions, bear arms, and serve in the Armed Forces).

US federal immigration law makes it a felony to aid or abet an illegal alien or to shield or hide an illegal alien from federal immigration authorities.

So, here are Secretary Chertoff’s “legal options.”

City officials who knowingly offer sanctuary to illegal aliens in violation of federal law can be arrested, tried and convicted as felons. Employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens can be arrested, tried and convicted as felons.

As a matter of fact, Chertoff doesn’t really have legal ‘options’ — as a sworn federal official and a Cabinet member of the Executive Branch, what Chertoff has are legal obligations. Law (for it to BE law, rather than guidelines) is not optional.

I don’t have the option of deciding not to obey seat belt laws just because I disagree with the government’s right to impose them. And the police can’t arbitrarily decide not to enforce them. Neither can a city declare itself a ‘seat-belt free’ city in violation of state law.

Back in the 70’s when Jimmy Carter declared a national speed limit of 55 mph, there were a number of states, like Texas, who at first refused to enforce it. (When I was in traffic school, the maximum state speed limit on the books was still 70 mph).

But all the speed limit signs statewide still said 55 mph — and Texas police wrote speeding tickets for 70 in a 55 zone even though state law still set the speed limit at 70 — because Carter announced he would enforce federal law by withholding federal funds for any state who refused to obey it.

But according to the Congressional Research Service, there are more than thirty cites and counties in America who have openly defied federal immigration law by officially declaring themselves sanctuary cities.

Chertoff’s options are too limited to need exploring.

Assessment:

It is worth noting that, even though the administration itself is reluctant to enforce existing immigration laws, the majority of sanctuary cities are also bastions of liberal politics.

When I was growing up in the Sixties, I used to wonder what would happen to the slogan, “never trust anybody over thirty” when those chanting it turned thirty-one. I don’t wonder anymore.

The Bible says, “Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.” (Proverbs 22:6)

Nowhere is that Biblical truth more evident than in liberal politics. In the Sixties, we called them ‘hippies’. But ‘hippie’ sounds kind of juvenile when applied to people in their fifties and sixties and so now we call them ‘liberals’.

But they are the same people, with the same ideas.

They are still rebelling against the “military-industrial complex” — only now its George Bush and Iraq and the CIA, instead of Nixon and Vietnam and the CIA. Instead of staging civil disobedience demonstrations on college campuses, the setting has moved to city council chambers. And instead of occupying them, they preside over them.

The Marxist hippies of the Sixties became the Marxists teachers and professors of the 70’s and 80’s. Now their students are the ones teaching advanced Marxism, and the old hippies have graduated to politics.

Senate Amendment 1183 failed to pass the Senate by a margin of 53 to 44. That amendment would have significantly increased legal immigration by adding an unlimited number of spouses and minor children of lawful permanent residents to the uncapped immediate relative category that currently is for the spouses, minor children and parents of U.S. citizens only.

The method for increasing legal immigration proposed is simply to expand the categories until almost everybody is legal. The amendment, (called the “Clinton Amendment” after its sponsor, Hillary Clinton) failed along party lines; Establishment 53, and Old Hippies 44.

The immigration amnesty bill, disguised as a ‘guest worker’ bill, failed by almost the identical margin, when the Old Hippies in the Senate could only muster 45 votes.

Pat Buchanan noted in a recent column, accurately, I believe, that when it comes to the issue of US immigration, America has already passed the point of no return.

“Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies projects – using official Census Bureau figures of 1.25 million legal and illegal immigrants entering and staying in the United States every year – a U.S. population of 468 million by 2060.

We will add as many people – 167 million – in the next half-century as the entire population of the United States when JFK was elected.

Some 105 million of these folks will be immigrants and their children. That 105 million is equal to the entire population of Mexico, whence most of these folks will be coming. . . . They know the gringos can’t stop it, for they have the American establishment on their side.”

Buchanan concludes grimly, “Buenas noches, America.”

Still wondering if all the dark rumors about an SPP conspiracy to create a North American Union are true?
~~ by Jack Kinsella


21 posted on 09/06/2007 9:20:58 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: nygoose
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22 posted on 09/06/2007 9:23:14 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Freedom of Speech is for everyone, not just liberals.)
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To: Stoat
Giuliani (as he said again in the debate last night) has no problem with 'sanctuary cities' as long as the illegals are not breaking the law.

Say what? I wish that one of the other candidates would have challenged him on that one by saying, "Think about what you just said, Rudy".

By definition ILLEGALS are not law-abiding citizens--hey ARE breaking the law.

23 posted on 09/06/2007 9:26:06 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative nominee who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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ping


24 posted on 09/06/2007 9:29:25 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: stockstrader
Giuliani (as he said again in the debate last night) has no problem with 'sanctuary cities' as long as the illegals are not breaking the law.

Okay, Guiliani. Which part of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 did you not understand?

25 posted on 09/06/2007 9:31:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Stoat

“Mr. Chertoff stopped short of threatening “sanctuary cities” by withholding government funding. “

WHY!?

My guess is Jorge was taken out the woodshed by the collective candidates and their supporters for President.


26 posted on 09/06/2007 10:16:38 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: AuntB

The North American Union is not far off!


27 posted on 09/06/2007 10:20:26 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Stoat

‘Mr. Chertoff stopped short of threatening “sanctuary cities” by withholding government funding. ‘

Which makes his comment utterly meaningless.


28 posted on 09/06/2007 10:22:51 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Stoat
"And of course, I have to say the consequence of that might be to put the citizens at risk, you know, in the event of a natural disaster.

So what. Cut 'em off! Maybe they'll re-evalutate their stance on harboring criminals and tax leaches.

29 posted on 09/06/2007 11:45:01 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: mtbopfuyn
 
"And of course, I have to say the consequence of that might be to put the citizens at risk, you know, in the event of a natural disaster.

So what. Cut 'em off! Maybe they'll re-evalutate their stance on harboring criminals and tax leaches.

There's nothing quite like a dirty bomb going off in downtown Berkeley to make the City Council stop and reevaluate it's priorities.  (ummm....actually, scratch that....it probably would take quite a bit more than that for Berkeley to develop an interest in sanity)

30 posted on 09/06/2007 11:56:11 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
I know I'm not the only one thinking that it's long passed due we reevaluated the motives and job security of our current political leadership. How much more of this treasonous bullcrap are we going to take? These politicos are nothing but modern day slavers. And now for a bit of nostalgia...

here's Karl Rove speaking at the Hillsdale College Churchill Dinner saying we can't enforce our borders.
31 posted on 09/06/2007 1:26:29 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


32 posted on 09/06/2007 8:36:15 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Stoat

There’s a reason that Chertoff was the only U.S. Attorney from the Bush 41 administration who wasn’t fired when Clinton came into office.


33 posted on 09/06/2007 9:45:58 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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