[MNJohnnie]

Well Meandog, considering your feverish support for Neo Socialists Jim Webb last year during the election MD, your assessment of people has prove to be a big ZERO.

Instead of arrogantly clinging to your feverish belief in your own infallibility, you might learn something from your grotesque failure of judgment and intellect. Instead of dogmatically clinging to your ignorance, try actually learning something about Iraq.

Counter Insurgency is not Total War. It is as much political as it is military.

Americanizing the War in 2002 would of been the same disaster in Iraq it was in Vietnam. Past time you learn how successful Counter Insurgency tactics work. Your dogma would of been to repeat the failure of every occupying power going all the way back to Napoleon in Spain.

[woofie]

well stated...I wonder just how many 911 style plots we have thwarted by going into Iraq ...Im sure we got a LOT of info

[meandog]

Counter Insurgency is not Total War. It is as much political as it is military. Americanizing the War in 2002 would of been the same disaster in Iraq it was in Vietnam. Past time you learn how successful Counter Insurgency tactics work. Your dogma would of been to repeat the failure of every occupying power going all the way back to Napoleon in Spain...

Firstly, Vietnam wouldn't have been a "disaster" had we had the fortitude to carry the fight to the NVA right to the doorsteps of Hanoi. Secondly, you need to review some history as there have been plenty of counterinsurgency rebellions put down (try the Indian Plains War for instance)...you might also want to review Cromwell's successes in Ireland, or, more recently the Israeli response to the Palestinian intifada.

[meandog]

Well, except for his pull the troops out of Iraq stance that echoes RINOs, old Jim Webb is proving himself somewhat more capable conservative than "chickenhawk" Macaca and perhaps even draft-dodgers Mitt and Rudy. He was a stalwart on opposing Bush's immigration plan (I suppose you liked it? as a George Allen supporter click here because he originally believed immigration was a "low priority" until he did a major flip-flop before the election), and we all know by now how Webb feels about protection of the 2nd Amendment. Yep, except for Iraq, I'm not a bit dissatisfied with Webb...would have even voted for him, too, had he not embraced the Clintons.