”Made in China” Ping.
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Posted on 09/06/2007 8:46:28 AM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
(BEIJING) - China on Thursday rejected a U.S. newspaper report that said Beijing was bullying less-developed countries that complain about the quality of its exports.
The Chinese government suggested last month that Indonesia lower its safety standards and refused to cooperate after Jakarta ordered tests that found chemical contamination in a variety of products imported from China, The Washington Post said.
The Philippines and Malaysia have also been subject to similar treatment and other tit-for-tat measures, the Post said.
But Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu dismissed the report as "groundless and not in line with facts."
She said an Indonesian delegation was in China to discuss food safety.
"The imports and export products of China must be line with China's regulations, laws and standards, and also in line with the standards and requests of the importing countries," Jiang said at a regular briefing......
......The Post said that Indonesia started testing their Chinese-made imports to see if they had problems and found cosmetics tainted with mercury and potentially cancer-causing candy.
At a meeting in August called by Chinese officials who said they had a possible solution, the newspaper reported that Husniah Rubiana Thamrin Akib, Indonesia's head of top food and drug safety, was told to consider lowering the country's standards instead.
Husniah was quoted as saying that she was "very upset and very surprised."
In July, Philippine authorities warned that the White Rabbit brand milk candy — a confection beloved in China — had tested positive for formaldehyde, a preservative and an embalming fluid that has been linked to cancer in humans, and ordered it removed from stores.
The manufacturer, Shanghai-based Guan Sheng Yuan Co., threatened to sue for defamation, the paper said......
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At this point, we could use internal organs from lawyers who would support the Chicoms provide the organs proved not infected by diseases common to hedonistic left.
This isn’t just an export problem. China really needs to police food and drugs for domestic consumption a lot better as well.
I’m not sure about something. When a US corporation has things made in China, is there a customary arrangement, or is it diverse? What I’m thinking is, I know some companies build, own and operate factories in China with close Chinese supervision. In other cases, do they build the factory and give the keys to the Chinese? And then, do some simply give the Chinese specifications and pay for the product?
I’m just looking at culpability of US corporations. Are the US companies simply ignorant, or are they negligent? And what is the incentive on the part of the Chinese to make these unsafe products? Is it a matter of trying to cheapen things, or is it ignorance, or is it malice?
I would guess lead based paint is easier, therefore cheaper to use. But glycol in toothpaste? I have no clue as to why that would be done, other than malice.
Glycol is an amazingly cheap sweetener, if you don't mind killing people. But more likely it found its way into the toothpaste by accident. That glycol poisoning of cough medicine in Panama (?) - IIRC that was accidental.
“Glycol is an amazingly cheap sweetener ...”
Yep, that’s why cats and dogs love anti-freeze. But if you’re making something for human consumption, how does an ingredient accidentally find it’s way into it?
It’s like me baking a cake and saying, that cyanide accidentally was put in the mix.
The problem is that these companies are controlled by Party and Army officials. Corruption and cheating is how they make extra money to line their pockets and pay off their mistresses.
Communism very much resembles an organized crime operation. A senior official who tries to stamp out corruption will antagonize the very people whose support he requires in order to stay in power.
Here is the Washington Post story that China denies, “Asians Say Trade Complaints Bring Out the Bully in China”:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1891761/posts
You can view it as increasing profits or making profits where abiding by the specs would have meant a loss. Either way, the intent isn't so much malicious as to avoid a hit to the bottom line. At the same time, when a bridge collapses, you don't blame the municipality that took the low bid, you blame the contractor that submitted the low bid and then proceeded to build below specs. China isn't the only place where American companies have outsourced. It is, however, the only place where such serious problems have come up - resulting in significant numbers of deaths and illnesses.
We don't know that. In fact, based on the racist hostility in reaction to the complaints about their toxic exports, it would appear that there is a sizeable national enmity at work. [Why send the Main Enemy non-toxic stuff...we intend to kill them anyways].
At the same time, when a bridge collapses, you don't blame the municipality that took the low bid, you blame the contractor that submitted the low bid and then proceeded to build below specs.
No. You find out the cause. And then assign blame as it indicates. There may be a lot to go around.
These are individual businessmen in private corporations trying to stay afloat.
State-owned corporations don't generally do this kind of stuff. Why? Because working in a state-owned corporations is like working for the government anywhere. Job security is more or less guaranteed. Losing money? No problem - the government will shovel in more money so that local bureaucrats can continue to skim money off in bits an pieces. But primarily so that they don't get tens of thousands of angry (and well-organized) state employees out on the street. Nobody cares about illiterate day laborers being laid off. But state employees know something about getting organized and could be a threat to the Party. Which is why their jobs are safe.
Figuring out if a bridge was built below spec is a matter of taking samples from various pieces and examining. Ditto with defective products. Western companies generally supply a spec and request bids and samples. What the Chinese do, that is distinct from most other countries, is provide the lowest bid, submit perfect samples and then end up supplying life threatening products.
Nope. No such thing. Every operation in China, excepting the FDI plants (which are only half-Chicom-owned), is totally a creature of the Chicoms.
I'm afraid that's not true. I personally know Chinese who own plants in China. They're not controlled at all by the government. Whether they survive or shut down depends on whether they can make money. Because price competition is so tough in the domestic market, many have sought to sell overseas. The problem is that Chinese standards are so low that many of their products don't pass muster. Most aren't even aware of international standards, any more than the average American company would be aware of Chinese standards.
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