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To: Rummyfan

Six years after 9/11 and we have tax-payer madrassas being opened in NYC
Six years after 9/11 and we have foot basins installed in the KC airport so our enemies can pray
Six years after 9/11 and public schools in San Diego set aside prayer times for our enemies, with the school board totally disregarding the objections of the citizenry

Yes, we could go on and on and on and on...


10 posted on 09/06/2007 6:39:14 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Enterprise; WOSG; Beckwith; LiteKeeper; Tolik; drzz; Dog; Badeye; Obie Wan; ...
Thanks - the ugly reality that Americans have yet to face is that they might be winning the battle, but losing the war.

From a recent post on my blog - as you can imagine I'm dumbfounded that the United States to this day still has not made ONE comment on the Hizb ut-Tahrir movement.

I've posted the propaganda videos on my site --

What Bush has been warning the West and America about is now becoming a reality and our response seems to be to ignore it and and hope it goes away -

"This past weekend's events in Jakarta, Indonesia should have been a start reminder and a wakeup call to the West of the terrible dangers the world is currently facing in the dark days ahead. To paraphrase Franklin D. Roosevelt, the experience of the past six years should have proven to us beyond a doubt that no nation can appease the the advocates of Islam. No man can tame a tiger into a kitten by stroking it. There can be no appeasement with ruthlessness. There can be no reasoning with an incendiary bomb. We should have, as a viable nation come to the realization that we can have peace with the Islam only at the price of total surrender.

And therein lies the first mental stumbling block that we have yet to overcome, which is the inability to name our enemy. To highlight the profound sophistry, if Islam is a religion of peace, then we seem to be at war with peace.

Historically, the fascism and totalitarianism of the past have for the most part been secular in nature whereas the fascism and totalitarianism that we face today is religious. In Islamic usage, civil society and the congregation of the faithful are conterminous and unlike other religions, Islam is and has always been as much a socio-political ideology as it is a religion. This isn't merely an opinion or speculation on our part, Hizb ut-Tahrir makes their intentions quite clear when they state --

"...living by Islam refers to all aspects of our relationships, all must be in line with Islam. Therefore downplaying the importance of the Khilafah/Islamic State/Imamah in order to emphasize personal rectification is akin to missing salah (prayer) in order to conserve energy for siyam (fasting)..."

What we witnessing now firsthand is not only historical rebirth of fascism and totalitarianism now on the march, but the culmination of our policies of accommodation and appeasement and the fateful consequences of Western fecklessness.

In the aftermath of the attack on Pearl Harbor, it's almost impossible for us to image that Americans would have found themselves on their knees constructing "giant penis-venerating shrines" in the nation's airports to accommodate pious Japanese travelers or that our president Franklin D. Roosevelt and the State Department would be donning kimonos and yukatas as they flitted around from sushi bar to teahouse shouting "kampai" and sipping sake and green tea. Surely none of us could ever imagine our President at the time profusely and tirelessly professing the glorious wonders of Shintoism as he removed his shoes and dedicated a plethora of new Shinto shrines around the country.".../i>

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An American Expat in Southeast Asia

11 posted on 09/06/2007 9:45:01 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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