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Water shortage ominous (Rationing may surface in Southland next year)
Daily News ^ | 9/6/07 | BY ALEX DOBUZINSKIS Staff Writer

Posted on 09/06/2007 12:29:05 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Just one of the many examples. The landscaping changes done by homeowners over the last 20 years is extraordinary.


61 posted on 09/06/2007 3:24:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (How do you recognize a cult member?)
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To: NVDave

Besides... WE NEED NATIONAL LAWN-CARE... NOW!!! (snort!)


62 posted on 09/06/2007 3:24:51 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Thou shalt not steal!!! Our greedy governments in Sacramento and Washington hate competition!!!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

More to the point, California has consistently pulled more water out of the Colorado River than their allocation allows for decades. If California were limited to the water they’re allowed, there would be some serious disruptions in the urban water systems, since that is where the over-diversions are.

This is why SoCal cities keep hitting on the Imperial Valley Irrigation District to lease ag water rights.


63 posted on 09/06/2007 3:25:54 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Wolfie
"I wonder how violent things would have to get before our Masters put us ahead of the fish."

Now THAT's what I call an astute observation and comment!!!

It just cries out for an answer!!!

64 posted on 09/06/2007 3:30:53 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Thou shalt not steal!!! Our greedy governments in Sacramento and Washington hate competition!!!)
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To: Bernard Marx

You are just saying that for the halibut.


65 posted on 09/06/2007 3:37:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I have a home in Scottsdale. The Salt River Project provides irrigation and power generation. Water is going to become an issue as the rapidly growing population of AZ has increased demand significantly. There will not only be battles among states but also betweeen Agribusiness and domestic use of water.


66 posted on 09/06/2007 3:42:45 PM PDT by kabar
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To: NVDave

I just wanted to correct the blanket statement in post 18, not get to deep into a topic that doesn’t interest me much.

No one can belittle my efforts I am a service plumber, a large portion of my life is devoted to reducing water usage throughout the city, I search for wastage that people don’t even know is taking place, or that is possible to reduce. I’m the guy for instance that is talking my customers out of using reverse osmosis units.

Low flow toilets are part of a package, during these same years we have been replacing the faucets and shower valves, and when we can’t do that we replace shower heads and aerators.

Water pressure regulators, more focused irrigation systems etc.

Homeowners have also introduced Grey water systems, cities have and are upgrading water infrastructure and have added layered rates for usage.

I’m fine with all kinds of efforts to reduce water usage as are most people, except for the very rich, they seem unmovable on the subject within their own property and homes.


67 posted on 09/06/2007 3:48:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (How do you recognize a cult member?)
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To: BurbankKarl; calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; All
About double that 462,000 acre feet would be in position to supply the shortage without needing to go through the Bay-Delta unless needed to push the salt water back away from the intakes. All that is needed is to finish the 2/3rds completed reservoir at Auburn, except restoring the coffer dam ripped out by flood in 1986 and the diversion dam for the by-pass tunnel being ripped out as I type this reply!!!

Just Google "Auburn Dam" and just try to seperate the B.S. from the truth. DEMOCRATS Jimmy Carter and Jerry Brown killed this long planned multi-purpose crown jewel of the whole system of "time machines" in the Sierra-Nevada range that allow us to visit our multi-use water before it finally runs back out to sea!

The whole Bay-Delta levee system that's much more vulnerable than New Orleans to flood damage could be protected by this key missing cap-stone! Even the state capitol it'self is more vulnerable than New Orleans to a flood and once the delta levees break, Southern California's water will be filled with turbidity and saltwater!!! I guess that makes you vulnerable, too, right?

68 posted on 09/06/2007 3:59:00 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Thou shalt not steal!!! Our greedy governments in Sacramento and Washington hate competition!!!)
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To: NVDave
This is why SoCal cities keep hitting on the Imperial Valley Irrigation District to lease ag water rights.

The Imperial Valley has far more rights to the water than San Diego or LA. It's time for SD and LA to start saving real amounts of water instead of crowing about their little programs for low flush and restricted shower heads. Take out the lawns!

69 posted on 09/06/2007 4:03:12 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: kabar

I lived in Phoenix for 18 years and still own my house there. I hear you! (Although we had APS power, for which my sister always thanked me as she works for APS but has SRP power.)


70 posted on 09/06/2007 4:06:00 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

ping

Turn on the faucet and drip, drip, drip ........


71 posted on 09/06/2007 4:13:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: BurbankKarl

Do you have a source for this?


72 posted on 09/06/2007 4:17:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: B4Ranch

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1879319/posts


73 posted on 09/06/2007 4:40:23 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Dinsdale; july4thfreedomfoundation

>>A desalination plant is just a way of ‘trading a barrel of oil for a barrel of water’ (not exactly correct but you get the point).

You can do some pretty interesting things with nuclear-driven desalination/electrical generation plants. And SoCal could use the megawatts.

Of course, doing something like this would make far too much sense.


74 posted on 09/06/2007 4:40:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: ken21

No offense to the hardworking California farmers. They don’t deserve this situation. However, the Libs and Greens are so worried about global warming that California has passed laws controlling greenhouse gases. Well, as your post indicates, the most potent greenhouse gas contributing to global warming is water vapor.

As far as I’m concerned, as long as that law is on the California books, if they are washing one car, watering one lawn, or irrigating one field, then they have far too much water in California. I save, Save the Smelt! (There is a bad joke there somewhere, but this is a serious site.)


75 posted on 09/06/2007 4:52:49 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: BurbankKarl
The district imports about 50 percent of the water used by member agencies. About two-thirds of the water comes from the delta and the rest from the Colorado River.

Where's the Owens Valley in this equation?????????

Are they saying that 2/3 of the 50% comes from the Delta, 1/3 from the Colorado River and the OTHER 50% from Owens Valley?

76 posted on 09/06/2007 4:57:18 PM PDT by bannie
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To: bannie

The Owens Valley water is theirs fair and square since they stole it before they had to report it as being “imported”.


77 posted on 09/06/2007 5:03:10 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Is THAT the game?

Now I understand. That continuing, constant, consistent theft doesn't count then?

I'll bet the greenies will never speak up against it, anyway...

78 posted on 09/06/2007 5:11:02 PM PDT by bannie
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To: bannie
Revisiting "Toilet-to-tap"

Here is a who's who of Democrats who are letting 400 million gallons a day flow into the Pacific Ocean.

79 posted on 09/06/2007 5:15:58 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: B4Ranch

Okey Dokey...!!!


80 posted on 09/06/2007 5:18:17 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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