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CA: GOP divided over Schwarzenegger's speech in Indian Wells
Riverside Press-Enterprise ^ | 9/8/07 | Michelle DeArmond
Posted on 09/09/2007 6:30:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge INDIAN WELLS - Gov. Schwarzenegger's clout among
2 posted on
09/09/2007 6:47:03 PM PDT by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: calcowgirl
State Sen. Tom McClintock, a favorite of conservatives who is considered a likely GOP candidate for governor in 2010,
Dang, could we be so lucky?
3 posted on
09/09/2007 6:52:02 PM PDT by
sheana
To: calcowgirl
Good for Tom; I remember hearing him in the debates to replace Gray, and really liking him.
4 posted on
09/09/2007 6:52:07 PM PDT by
Humble Servant
(Keep it simple - do what's right.)
To: calcowgirl
>>>>>>State Sen. Tom McClintock, a favorite of conservatives who is considered a likely GOP candidate for governor in 2010, hit it hard. He told delegates that "European socialism won't work any better in California than it will in Europe."Tell'em Tom!
The Ventura County senator charged Schwarzenegger with misrepresenting the words of the late President Ronald Reagan before the delegates. The governor quoted Reagan as warning the GOP "can't be a narrow sectarian party which must sear allegiance to prescribed amendments." But McClintock said the governro failed to include the next sentence in Reagan's quote: "Let no one, however, interpret this to mean compromise of basic philosophy or that we will be all things to all people for political expediency."
Yes indeed, political expediency. A favorite of Mitt romney.
The governor's supporters, however, countered that McClintock can push the conservative hard line, but it hasn't sold with California voters. McClintock has run for state controller, lieutenant governor and governor -- and has never won a statewide race.
IOW, settle for moderate Republicanism.
5 posted on
09/09/2007 6:53:14 PM PDT by
Reagan Man
(FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
To: calcowgirl
The governor warned the party is "dying at the box office" unless it appeals to moderate voters on issues such as global warming and health careYou've been in office for almost 4 years now Arnie. Are you saying that you have been Governing from the far right all that time?
8 posted on
09/09/2007 7:01:47 PM PDT by
lowbridge
("We control this House, not the parliamentarians!” -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
To: calcowgirl
The Schwarz hasn't figured it out yet so somebody best let him in on the story ~ in America NO ONE IS IN THE CENTER.
What we have is an electorate that follows the form of a bimodal saddle.
Each mode is pretty much equal to the other of course.
The problem for a politician is to keep his base (his mode) and attract enough votes from the other base (the other mode) to win.
If a politician goes for the "center" but alienates his base, he ends up with a dramatically diminished number of voters (or voters in the right states) ~ see: Kerry, Gore, Mondale, Carter, McGovern, .... telling folks their taxes would go up didn't help any of these guys ~ even the Center (as small as it is) doesn't care for more taxes.
Republicans, in general, in the last mid-term election, tended to alienate their base ~ mostly through stupid stuff ~ e.g. coddling homosexuals, failing to be aggressive on taxes, spending too much money on "earmarks" (bridges to nowhere), etc.
The programs the Schwarz advocates Republican candidates in California pushing will necessarily alienate their base, attract few from the Center (which is very small) and probably bore the other base, which is simply resigned to gross stupidity and corruption.
10 posted on
09/09/2007 7:03:24 PM PDT by
muawiyah
To: calcowgirl
McClintock should be governor. Being conservative is not like drinking alcohol. It isn’t something to be had in moderation.
So we will only believe killing babies is good in moderation?
Gay marriage is only good in moderation? Taxes are only good in moderation?(I think we are far past that) This stupid idea is the detachment of reason from policy making. What are we fighting for if we give up our principles to appeal to those who are not?
11 posted on
09/09/2007 7:07:04 PM PDT by
Maelstorm
(Understanding the motivations of a victimizer does not exonerate them.)
To: calcowgirl
12 posted on
09/09/2007 7:09:23 PM PDT by
tubebender
(My first great grandson is a Miniature Schnauzer...)
To: calcowgirl
The governor warned the party is "dying at the box office" unless it appeals to moderate voters on issues such as global warming and health care.
Moderate is another term for those who have already sacrificed their Conservatives principles in order to appease the socialists. Schwarzenegger is attempting to convince Conservatives to do the same. It is a pattern occurring throughout the country and the GOP. The GOP has been incrementally aligning its ideology with the socialist democrats. They are essentially one party. Conservatives who are not willing to abandon their principles need to distance themselves from the socialists in the GOP by leaving the party and uniting with the large number of unaffiliated Conservatives to restore the two party system.
14 posted on
09/09/2007 7:12:19 PM PDT by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: calcowgirl
I know it is hard to believe that California still has conservatives in it,but we do have some of the best. Tom McClintoc, Elton Gallegly
http://www.house.gov/gallegly/ and Duncan Hunter. Ventura is still a conservative county. They still have law and order and their cities are constantly rated as safest in the country. Their schools are still the best, check out
http://www.greatschools.net/ and compare to Los Angeles. It is obvious that conservative cities are the best places to live. I will be moving back to Ventura within a year because I won’t allow my 5 year old daughter to even go to a privet school in L.A.
19 posted on
09/09/2007 8:29:16 PM PDT by
Haddit
To: calcowgirl
You people in California sold you souls to the left a LLLLOOONNNNGGGG time ago (but they promised to be nice.)
Enjoy the weeds you’ve sown.
21 posted on
09/09/2007 9:03:48 PM PDT by
Tzimisce
(How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
To: calcowgirl
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF SCHENKENNDY. BRING ON THE BIG GUN!!
TOM MCCLINTOCK
26 posted on
09/09/2007 11:44:25 PM PDT by
joydoc
(ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN AMERICA)
To: calcowgirl
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF SCHENKENNDY. BRING ON THE BIG GUN!!
TOM MCCLINTOCK
27 posted on
09/09/2007 11:44:26 PM PDT by
joydoc
(ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN AMERICA)
To: calcowgirl
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF SCHENKENNDY. BRING ON THE BIG GUN!!
TOM MCCLINTOCK
28 posted on
09/09/2007 11:44:26 PM PDT by
joydoc
(ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN AMERICA)
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