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To: AmericanInTokyo

Hey, I have no problem at all with this website.

Japan took careful note of what unrestricted immigration did to Europe and the US and have decided that it is NOT going to happen here.


15 posted on 09/10/2007 2:13:53 AM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Ronin

The Japanese are not stupid. They will keep Japan for the Japanese and don’t care one whit about the “racist” label.


17 posted on 09/10/2007 3:52:41 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Ronin

And Japan’s population—and global clout—is in decline.


21 posted on 09/10/2007 4:49:54 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Ronin
Hey, I have no problem at all with this website. Japan took careful note of what unrestricted immigration did to Europe and the US and have decided that it is NOT going to happen here.

I also have no problem with what the Japanese are doing ....it is their nation and they have the sovereign right to do what they are doing. The only part i have to disagree with is where you stated that they took careful note of what unrestricted immigration did to Europe and the US, and based on their observations took the steps they have taken.

That is simply not the case ....the Japanese as a culture have always been 'sheltered' (I could say xenophobic, but I will not) when it comes to foreigners ....any foreigner. And this goes back quite a while, even back to the days of Commodore Matthew Perry (I believe even before his ships forced Japan to start real trading with foreigners, the only port opened to foreigners was the port at Nagasaki ....and then only open to some Chinese and the Dutch).

Anyways, the Japanese have every right to set policies on foreigners and immigrants ....it is, after all, their country. And it is true that immigration has gone awry in Europe (and even though it is a big issue in the US it is no where as dire as it is in Europe .....trust me, any European nation would trade its numbers of unemployed and angry Muslim population, in some nations as high as 10%, for our Mexicans ....not to say that we should give illegals amnesty, but saying that there is a big difference between our problems and theirs).

As for Japan .....it has really zero immigration (in real terms). However they are facing some serious issues, starting with a birth rate that is 1.3 (for population replacement a nation needs a ratio of 2.1). 1.3 is the lowest in the world, and by 2050 Japan will not be sustainable. Already they are closing schools because of lack of children (by some estimates 200 schools closed per year), and there was an interesting documentary i watched some months back that showed this school in Japan with only one child (ONE child). That will continue to place great social burdens on the working population due to the inverted social pyramid (Japan also has one of the oldest populations in the world, and one of the highest life expectancies ....I believe second highest, but my figures could be out of date). Those are real issues. Now, immigration will not fix them (it is not a 'fix' when you end up substituting your native culture with a foreign one, which is what unabated immigration may do if it is not checked, or if it is not the American version that is a veritable 'melting pot' ....and before you scoff compare US muslims with European muslims ....for the most part 'our' Muslims are well integrated and quite successful, while in Europe they are basically not at all assimilated and live in small compact communities that do not even consider themselves 'French' or 'British' but 'other'). The problem for Japan is that around 2020-2025 they will be FORCED to either accept MASS immigration, or the state will have to go draconian and force increased reproduction (which is just plain darn crazy in and of itself). To be honest with you 2020 will probably be too late .....2015 may be 'bingo' point for that nation in terms of reproduction. Any later and there will be a lull between the point where there is sufficient working mass to support the elderly, and the point where the eldest of the 'new kids' (if they get them) age enough to join the working mass.

Anyways, good that Japan is taking care of illegal immigrants. But they need to put as much effort (more even) in doing something about their population decline, otherwise 2020 will roll-by and they will be forced to bring in all sorts of people. Not to mention what a nation like China (by then a regional juggernaut with only the US as its main threat) may view Japan as .....people always state Russia's demographic problems and how they might be tempting to China, but then forget about Japan (which has a far greater demographic problem, and which China has a FAR bigger bone to pick with over what happened in WW2).

However i hear that sales of digital pets, pillows that have the shape of a human arm, and warmed human size teddy-bears that a person can snuggle with are booming in Japan. I just hope those digital pets will have advanced to a level where they can work, take care of the elderly, and stand-off against a future China in 2020/25.

25 posted on 09/10/2007 4:58:45 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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