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Immigrants sent to front of hospital queues
News of the World ^ | 11 Sept 2007 | Robbie Collin

Posted on 9/11/2007, 10:33:10 AM by snarks_when_bored

Immigrants sent to front of hospital queues

By Robbie Collin

IMMIGRANTS who can't speak English are being sent to the FRONT of NHS out-patient queues...while locals are left waiting in clinics for hours.

Patients who need interpreters are being given priority by hospital trusts—because bosses reckon it's cheaper than having costly translators hanging about.

It means that at busy times non-English speakers are instantly shunted to the front of the queue.

But the policy has infuriated patients' groups, who claim it shows ordinary Britons are being discriminated against.Immigrations sent to front of hospital queues

At one outpatient clinic—the London Chest Hospital, at Bethnal Green in the East End— signs clearly warn visitors: "Patients needing trust interpreters will be given priority."

Locals are outraged at the move by London and Barts NHS Trust, which runs the Chest Hospital.

One said: "It should be a case that those in most need go first—not because of what language they may or may not speak.

"Having to wait longer just adds to people's stress and anxiety, when they are already under a lot of pressure."

Another added: "I don't understand why needing someone to translate for you should make you any more important. It's a very unfair system." But Michael Summers, vice-chairman of the trust's Patients' Association, said: "There are always long queues for outpatient services, sometimes as much as four hours, and hospitals don't want to have to keep paying a translator for all that time.

"At the same time, I can appreciate why patients become irritated by this."

Trust spokeswoman Marie Mangan said: "Like most NHS Trusts, when a clinic is over-running every effort is made to ensure that those patients who are using trust interpreters are seen at their allotted appointment time."

Wound

The policy comes after a major government report revealed how so-called health tourism costs the NHS more than £62MILLION a year, more than half of which is never recovered.

Recent figures also show that a staggering £100MILLION is being spent every year on translators in the public sector.

Anti-waste group The Taxpayers' Alliance said: "It's rubbing salt in the wound when people see the NHS struggling— and at same time, the British taxpayers who fund it are never being put first."


MR ANGRY HITS BACK

SO now it's official - if you are an English-speaking taxpayer you go to the bottom of the NHS waiting list.

Our health service should treat everybody EQUALLY - not give preference to the select few who speak whatever lingo happens to be politically correct.

It disgusts me that speakers of overseas languages are allowed to jump the queue. If it was the other way around and people who speak foreign languages were treated last, the NHS would be prosecuted for racial discrimination.

So why are our misguided hospital chiefs allowed to discriminate against English-speakers?



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: governmenthealthcare; morethanequalrights; speakenglishandwait
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Patients who need interpreters are being given priority by hospital trusts—because bosses reckon it's cheaper than having costly translators hanging about.

I, for one, am confident that Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama wouldn't allow this sort of thing to happen here in the North American Union.

1 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:33:13 AM by snarks_when_bored
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2 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:35:03 AM by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

coming soon to the North American Union


3 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:35:08 AM by GeronL (Wal-Mart Respect Enforcement Department)
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To: snarks_when_bored

I sense an issue for the Tories, and a pretty dang good one too.


4 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:36:05 AM by GeronL (Wal-Mart Respect Enforcement Department)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Sigh. Here we are required by law to provide professional interpreters for patients as well. So the ER gets 0 dollars for the illegal PLUS adding a 100 dollar an hour interpreter charge. Recently we had the dilemma of two illegals from so deep in Mexico they didn’t even speak Spanish. We were unable to come up with a “Yaki” (Indian dialect) interpreter.


5 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:38:52 AM by Kozak
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To: GeronL

We are the world. Kumbaya. Everything is beautiful. It can’t happen here.


6 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:40:40 AM by snarks_when_bored
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To: Kozak

You can’t bill the federal government, I guess?


7 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:42:01 AM by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
Patients who need interpreters are being given priority by hospital trusts—because bosses reckon it's cheaper than having costly translators hanging about. I, for one, am confident that Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama wouldn't allow this sort of thing to happen here in the North American Union.

Actually, we already REQUIRE the translators...

8 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:43:00 AM by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Jim Noble

Dang, that I hadn’t seen.


9 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:44:22 AM by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
You can’t bill the federal government, I guess?

Charging for the required interpreter service (75 languages, last time I looked) is forbidden.

10 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:44:53 AM by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

They actually have a weird system for trying to get some (small) fraction of dollars for hospitals that see illegals. BUT you can’t actually ask immigration status and you CAN’T “profile”. So beats me how they arrive at the magic number.

But in general the answer is no. We live under federal mandates in the ER all the time, with EMTALA the biggest and you can’t bill them. All stick, no carrot.


11 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:47:17 AM by Kozak
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To: snarks_when_bored
Dang, that I hadn’t seen.

I share your lack of enthusiasm for HRC and Obama, but if you study George W. Bush's unfunded health care mandates you would conclude that he is at least as bad.

12 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:49:00 AM by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Kozak; Jim Noble

Jeez.


13 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:50:01 AM by snarks_when_bored
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To: Jim Noble
I have no a priori argument with that claim. George W. Bush has been a disappointment in many ways...
14 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:52:23 AM by snarks_when_bored
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It's now obvious that EMTALA is the end of the system as we have known it, it's just that there is so much capital still to be consumed by the communists in Washington that the dead system hasn't fallen over yet.

We might as well elect Hillary and get on with it, because the carnage caused by EMTALA is going to destroy a lot of things that should be preserved.

15 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:53:19 AM by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

I feel so friendly towards Poles that the example in the article doesn’t bother me - but Poles apart, this really frosts me.


16 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:53:44 AM by agere_contra
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To: snarks_when_bored
Executive Order 13166, signed by Slick Willie aboard AF1
17 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:57:44 AM by OBXWanderer (dontvoteincumbent.com)
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To: agere_contra

I feel the same way.


18 posted on 9/11/2007, 10:58:48 AM by dragonblustar (Freedom of Speech is for everyone, not just liberals.)
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To: agere_contra
I only included the Polish pic because it was part of the article. I like pretty much all people—non-English-speaking as well as English-speaking—who aren't trying to kill me or colonize my land while I'm living on it. But this article highlights a manifest failure of governmental policy judgment: you triage people by the severity of their medical conditions, not by the availability of translators.
19 posted on 9/11/2007, 11:00:12 AM by snarks_when_bored
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RE: Clinton EO 13166:

George W. Bush has been President for six years and nine months.

Anything that he disagreed with should have been revoked LONG ago.

They're HIS executive orders now, and have been for years and years.

20 posted on 9/11/2007, 11:19:09 AM by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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