I am not blaming the victim. I was simply questioning the logic of a parent that allowing a brand new(that day) driver to be out driving at 10:30 P.M.
Yes you are.
As a 17yr old I was routinely out past 10:30. I had a job. Maybe this girl and her brother did too? But that doesn’t occur to you.
But even so... That’s just not late for a 17yr old even just merely out for fun with friends, or in this case, a brother. That’s pretty common even just going to a movie.