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Public Opposition To Small Troop Reductions Raises Similarity To Carter Days
Townhall.com ^ | September 13, 2007 | Matt Towery

Posted on 09/13/2007 3:22:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

An InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion survey of 1044 registered voters nationwide shows public opinion evenly split over the opinion provided by General David Petraeus in his report this week to Congress on our progress in Iraq. That's the good news for President Bush, given the many reports and commentaries that suggest the general had a sketchy case.

Now the bad news for Bush and proponents of a 30,000-troop reduction by next summer: By a 58 percent to 34 percent margin, Americans say the reduction is not enough. A majority wants more troops than that home by then.

Here's the key: By a 43 percent to 36 percent margin, poll respondents said they'd be less likely to vote for the Republican nominee for president if a substantial number of troops "have not been withdrawn from Iraq by Election Day." (The other 21 percent were undecided.)

The plot gets even thicker when the poll is broken down by party affiliation. Nearly 20 percent of those identifying themselves as Republicans said they'd be less likely to vote for their own party's nominee if big troop reductions don't happen.

Among those who consider themselves independent voters -- the ones who put recent Republican presidential candidates over the top -- 12 percent said they'd be less likely to vote for the GOP ticket without drastic troop reductions.

What does this all mean? First, it tells us that many Americans recognize that there has been genuine progress in bringing some degree of calm to Iraq. Given the endless drumbeat of bad stories and commentary, that is amazing in and of itself. However, the fact that only 49 percent of all Americans agree with the administration's assessment is hardly cause for celebration at the White House.

The fact is, most Americans originally supported the war, later became skeptical and now want our troops back home. It doesn't mean they don't support the troops or the overall cause. Rather, they have grown weary and can no longer distinguish a clear connection between 9/11 and a continued war in Iraq. Clearly there are arguments to support that connection, but if the public cannot make the mental leap needed to do so, then, from a public-opinion basis, the effort is of no value.

And cute tricks, such as having General Petraeus testify one day before the anniversary of 9/11, have little impact on public perception. To many Americans, the election is about Iraq, stupid.

Oddly, my polling tells me that by November of 2008 the issue will be the same that created disaster for the Democrats and Jimmy Carter in 1980 -- the economy. Remember James Carville's stinging slogan for Bill Clinton: "It's the economy, stupid."

James was right, and he used the issue to create a wedge that -- once Ross Perot's third-party candidacy was tossed in -- worked to elect Clinton.

The combination of Iraq and a threat and the economy should be of great concern to those Republicans vying for their party's nomination.

I believe this election is much like the 1980 battle between Carter and Reagan. A bad economy combined with a seemingly unsolvable international crisis -- the Iranian hostage crisis for Carter -- created huge discontent among the public.

The difference this time is that none of the GOP candidates for president are White House incumbents, as Carter was then for the Democrats. So there's no pressing need for the Republicans to resolve the international crisis prior to Election Day, as Carter needed to do.

Put another way, Bush and his general can make their small reductions in troops in Iraq and hurt only one person -- the coming GOP nominee.

Few remember that Jimmy Carter and his staff came close to negotiating freedom for the hostages just before the election. When the effort failed, Carter's pollster, Pat Caddell, had to inform Carter that the election would likely go to Reagan.

To his credit, Carter tried to resolve the Iranian issue. If Bush and the GOP presidential field remain steadfast in this "stay until we win" mindset, they will likely sentence the GOP to the same fate Carter faced. Defeat.


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1 posted on 09/13/2007 3:22:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Handwringing.

Voters still won't want to put Hillary or B. Hussein Obama in charge of national security in 2008.

For whatever reason they disagree with the strategy of Bush, they will not take it out on Fred or Rudy or Mitt.

2 posted on 09/13/2007 3:27:27 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kaslin
I’m waiting to see Hillary introduce a semi-conservative third party candidate into the process at the last moment to hand her the election like Bill did with Ross Perot. Don’t bet it won’t happen.
3 posted on 09/13/2007 3:38:48 AM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: ME-262

It is the left that will suffer that fate... this time!

LLS


4 posted on 09/13/2007 4:13:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Kaslin
To his credit, Carter tried to resolve the Iranian issue. If Bush and the GOP presidential field remain steadfast in this "stay until we win" mindset, they will likely sentence the GOP to the same fate Carter faced. Defeat.

The article doesn't address what is in the best interests of this country. Everything is viewed thru the prism of partisan politics. Nevermind the achievement of the mission or the sacrific of blood and treasure to achieve it. We can't walk away from Iraq like we did in Vietnam.

Comparing Carter and Bush is nonsense. It was Carter's inaction and humiliation over 444 days by Iran that sealed his fate. His pathetic attempt of a rescue [Desert One] demonstrated what a weak, inept leader he was. Bush is doing just the opposite. He is going after the enemy, which was spawned by Carter's weakness, including setting the stage for Khomeini to hijack the Iranian Revolution by greasing the skids for the removal of the Shah.

5 posted on 09/13/2007 4:45:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin

Just another left wing opinion couched in a push poll. In other words meaningless.


6 posted on 09/13/2007 4:54:40 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Kaslin

Poorly fought no win type wars have a way of losing support

MacArthur was right

In war there is no substitute for victory


7 posted on 09/13/2007 5:58:42 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: kabar

Matt Towery’s from Georgia. I remember in 2002, he predicted that Saxby Chambliss had virtually no chance against Max Cleland.

Let’s not be so pessimistic.


8 posted on 09/13/2007 6:06:37 AM PDT by guinnessman
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To: guinnessman
Matt Towery has his head stuck in his ass. He can't see the Democrats are invested in defeat. An American win in Iraq would not help their prospects next year. But let's say things don't improve. Then then in that case, it is far better to lose with honor than win in shame for having inflicted an unforgivable defeat upon America.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 09/13/2007 7:27:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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