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Another reason why Massachusetts is one of just two states to lose population since 2000.
1 posted on 09/14/2007 12:27:58 PM PDT by pabianice
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I don't know why, but when I read the title of this thread... this came to mind:


2 posted on 09/14/2007 12:30:52 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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have emerged from the shadows of irrelevance and joined the battle for secular reason in Washington

The obvious error here is in assuming that secular = reason. It doesn't. In fact, hard-core secularists are typically some of the most unreasonable, irrational people you will meet.

3 posted on 09/14/2007 12:32:44 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Want authentic 1st century Christianity? Visit a local, New Testament Independent Baptist church!)
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Humanists, for decades content to meet and talk among themselves about rationalism and regarded as 98-pound godless weaklings by the muscle-bound religious right

Time to kick some sand in their face...

4 posted on 09/14/2007 12:42:06 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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Are these people connected to George’s Human Fund?


5 posted on 09/14/2007 12:42:42 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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I value truth very highly and I know the truth is that death is final.

And you're *absolutely* certain of this,"Reverend"?

6 posted on 09/14/2007 12:45:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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The couple in the picture have to be from central casting.
A humanist “American Gothic.”


7 posted on 09/14/2007 12:47:29 PM PDT by aroostook war
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The couple in the picture have to be from central casting.
A humanist “American Gothic.”


8 posted on 09/14/2007 12:47:48 PM PDT by aroostook war
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His wife, Linda Antoun Miller, said being a humanist to her means “that we alone have responsibility for our world and that we should try to increase the good, the true and the beautiful. We make our own heaven and hell on earth. Being good because you will be rewarded in the hereafter is less than doing good for purely generous reasons.”

Well, that approach brought us the bloodbath that was the 20th century. These people never have to answer for that, as, say, Christians are called onto the carpet for the Inquisition or the Crusades. Nobody ever makes them define terms like “good” or “generous” or “true” or “beautiful” when they throw them around, or even challenges them as to why these things are desirable in and of themselves. This woman is a psuedo-intellectual twit, spewing platitudes that are not anchored in anything other than what sounds good to her right now. Twit. Her husband also qualifies as one. Neither of them accurately states the theistic position from which they dissent. Twits.


11 posted on 09/14/2007 12:56:26 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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Humanism is the aging hippie’s refuge on the way to Hell.
It was a fad among the “intelligentsia” before World War II showed the depravity that humans are capable of.


12 posted on 09/14/2007 1:05:01 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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“I’m in my 65th year,” said Rev. Miller, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School and a minister emeritus, “and I can say it’s been a helluva life. I’ve been in relationships of love and friendship. I value truth very highly and I know the truth is that death is final. Those who believe in the hereafter grieve very strenuously over death. They’re as afraid of death as I am.”

Two thoughts:

First, how does he "know" that death is final? He might believe it; he might have faith that it is so. But it is irrational to state that he knows it.

Second, if death is final, then ultimately nothing else matters. In the long run, we are all dead, as Keynes so famously said. And as soon as anyone dies—Rev. Miller included—the universe ceases to exist for that person.

If all is nothing more than atoms and void, it is ultimately pointless to talk about truth, rationality, or morality. The Universe cares nothing about those things, or about us. Do good, do evil, or do nothing—in the end, each is equally pointless.

13 posted on 09/14/2007 1:05:40 PM PDT by Logophile
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As a secular humanist myself, my big problem with the (H)umanists is that they use their worldview as a cover for the promotion of socialism.


14 posted on 09/14/2007 1:07:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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They want a voice in the political process.....all they have to do is talk.


15 posted on 09/14/2007 1:17:16 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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What an astonishing basket of freakazoids. Not a Christian among the lot, and all of them know better than Jesus Christ himself. Amazing. Screwtape is thrilled.
17 posted on 09/14/2007 1:28:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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http://www.vhemt.org/

The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

“May we live long and die out”


19 posted on 09/14/2007 1:30:13 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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[Being humanist means] that we alone have responsibility for our world and that we should try to increase the good, the true and the beautiful. We make our own heaven and hell on earth. Being good because you will be rewarded in the hereafter is less than doing good for purely generous reasons.”

Hmmmm. Sort of a mix of the lisping Toulouse Lautrec character from the movie Moulin Rouge ("do you believe in truth, beauty and love?"), John Lennon ("imagine there's no heaven"), and Kant. Lord, save our nation from the Church Ladies gone bad.

20 posted on 09/14/2007 1:38:10 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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Humanism...just another name for bestiality and animalism.


21 posted on 09/14/2007 2:49:08 PM PDT by DGHoodini
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I suppose humanists are better than the misanthropic transhumanists, but not by much.


23 posted on 09/15/2007 10:53:07 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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