Inside the Ring Jihadist threat

Gertzfile ^ | September 14, 2007 | Bill Getrtz

[fishhound]

The international Sunni jihadist group Muslim Brotherhood set up numerous U.S. front groups since the 1990s that should be regarded as hostile and a threat to the United States, a Pentagon Joint Staff analyst said.

Stephen Coughlin, a lawyer and military intelligence specialist on the Joint Staff, stated in a Sept. 7 memorandum that many U.S. Muslim groups viewed as moderate by the Justice Department and other government agencies secretly are linked to the pro-terrorist Muslim Brotherhood. The groups also are engaged in influence and deception operations designed to mask their true aims, he said.

Documents entered into evidence in the federal terrorism trial in Dallas of the Holy Land Foundation, a charity charged with illegally funding the Palestinian Hamas terrorist group, reveal new security threats from a network of more than 29 U.S. Muslim groups.

[353FMG]

“..Sunni jihadist group Muslim Brotherhood set up numerous U.S. front groups since the 1990s that should be regarded as hostile and a threat to the United States, a Pentagon Joint Staff analyst said.”

I thought we are fighting jihadists in Iraq so that we won’t have to do it here at home. Someone explain please?

[BillyAqua]

"Stephen Coughlin, a lawyer and military intelligence specialist on the Joint Staff, stated --- that many U.S. Muslim groups viewed as moderate by the Justice Department and other government agencies secretly are linked to the pro-terrorist Muslim Brotherhood."

This is the problem when one believes that there is such a thing a "moderate" Islam. It's like saying one has "moderate cancer". Men of little or no faith will fall into that 'moderate muslim' trap too easily, whereas the Faithful of Christ are more enlightened in spiritual matters and hence recognize the enemies of our faith and of our souls. So when any politician, and I mean any politician, claims that we can befriend 'moderate muslims' and trust them as allies, that man is a damned fool. But then again, politicians aren't exactly renowned as men of faith.

[RC2]

As has become evident to the majority, but not to politicians is that we are not fighting a government in Iran or any place else. We are fighting muslims that believe that Allah wants us all dead. When the world resigns itself to the fact that being a muslim is being part of a cult, they can then handle the situation and approach it differently. Fighting a government or dictator is much easier, but fighting people that believe that what they do is Allah’s will is a lot different. They have billions of dollars behind them. Unlike other wars in Germany, Japan or the cold war in Russia, where they went broke and could not fund their aggression, the Middle East has their oil. In 1980, oil was $5.00 a barrel. Today it is almost $80.00 a barrel. The Saudi’s make almost $200 billion a year from their oil. Cut the price of oil way back and they will go broke and things will change dramatically.

[CRBDeuce]

“I thought we are fighting jihadists in Iraq so that we won’t have to do it here at home. Someone explain please?”

Around the planet the jihad is being fought conventionally (slitting throats)...In the USA, the plethora of lawyers has given the jihadi another option....the ‘justice’ system!

[RC2]

I agree. At times, our people can be their own worst enemy. The only time that changes is if we are involved in a massive world war. Then our people don’t care about what lawyers say.

[El Gato]

In 1980, oil was $5.00 a barrel. Today it is almost $80.00 a barrel.

Actually not.

As you can see it was around $40 in 1980. But that was part of a transit due to hositilities between Iran and Iraq. It declined from about $20 to around $15 from '47 to just before the '73 Arab Israeli war. In '77 I bought a house for around $40K, today a similar house in a similar neighborhood would be around $120K. So while oil is up more than housing, it's not so very much more. And of course if you look at the 60 years from '47 to '77 housing would have outstripped oil. My parents bought a house in '59 and paid about 18K, that very house, let alone a new equivalent in a non deteriorated neighborhood in the same city, would sell for around 120K, factor of 3, while oil has only risen about a factor 4 over the same period.

[El Gato]

whoops, I missed the "in 2006 dollars". In constant 2006 dollars the price of the house is probably up only a factor of 1.5 for a new equivalent house.

But I do remember oil being quite a bit higher than $5 in 1980, that seems more like the pre '73 embargo price.

[BillyAqua]

There are some resemblences to islamofacism and WWII though. The Japanese believed their Emperor was God, and hence their whole society was a cult. “Kill for the Emperor, die for Japanese pride, commit haricari if pride is hurt, fly a Kamakazi mission for the Emporer-God, Herohito, etc”. That was likely why FDR had the Japanese-Americans rounded up and placed in camps after Pearl Harbor; he understood that their whole society was actually a radical cult, (their blind faith in their false god, and their suicidal tendencies when shamed might be hard for them to overcome). Hence he understood that every one of them, because of their radical beliefs, had a serious potential to become an underground warrior. How I wish that today’s American leaders had the same wisdom, courage and love for America that their counterparts in WWII had.