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So long, white boy (Author says Dems should abandon search for white male "Bubba" voter)
Slate ^ | September 17, 2007 | Thomas F. Schaller

Posted on 09/16/2007 9:33:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: weegee

You nailed it.


41 posted on 09/17/2007 8:09:05 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Today, one third of Dem voters are Black/Hispanic. By 2050, non-Hispanic whites [male and female] will be one-half of the population. Half of the children today between the ages 0 to 5 are minorities. So the Dems will depend less and less on non-Hispanic whites of either gender as we go forward into the 22nd Century. The question is how long the minorities in the Dem Party will accept being led by white liberals. Demography is destiny.

Bureau of the Census Population Projections 2000-2050

42 posted on 09/17/2007 8:17:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: redpoll
The thinking in this article deserves to be served up with the banner, “Race-obsessed leftists think skin pigment determines individual choices, political leanings, and personality.” The last time I looked, folks who think skin pigment determines those things belonged to the Klan, the National Socialist party, the Nation of Islam... and, of course, academics and elitists currently living in the United States. Where’s the barf alert!?

It may be racist thinking, but the reality is that blacks vote 90% Dem in presidential elections and Hispanics vote over 65% Dem. There are no black Reps in Congress and very few Hispanics, mainly Cuban-Americans. So who exactly is being racist?

43 posted on 09/17/2007 8:21:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: txflake
"If the NASCAR dads are so dead, why did the rats have to field the blue dogs to win ‘06?"

Because there are still pockets in Congressional districts where these people can make a difference in the election outcome, but overall, the Democrats need them less and less as they import more Democrat voters with the immigration policies they put in place back in the '60's.

44 posted on 09/17/2007 8:25:54 AM PDT by penowa
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To: rawmuse

Manly men will always vote Pub. If Schrum wants the Dems to give up on the South, the Mt.West, and the border state whites, I am sure the Pubs will take as many of those voters as they can garner. After all, the Dems take all the felon, dead, and illegal votes they can get.


45 posted on 09/17/2007 10:06:10 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
About what I'd expect from Slate...

In next year's election, white males may account for fewer than one out of three voters. Bubba is no longer a kingmaker.

Yet blacks, who with both genders number fewer than that, are considered to be kingmakers...figure that...

"The 2004 CNN exit poll data shows that [John] Kerry lost white males by 31 points if they weren't in a union, but won them by seven points if they were -- a 38-point difference," says Mike Podhorzer, deputy political director of the AFL-CIO. "It's no accident -- union members understand that their votes make a difference, for their wages, their healthcare and their pensions.

If this were true, union members would have gone RAT by a larger margin than 53.5%-46.5%...this statistic underlies the fact that RATS lose white males by a 69%-31% margin, using his own numbers.

46 posted on 09/17/2007 10:13:03 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: ran20

Lots of blue collar types STILL vote Democrat in New York and New Jersey. If you look at the counties that voted for Gore and Kerry, you will see that the counties with large numbers of suburban blue collar whites (Gloucester, Camden, Middlesex, Union) voted heavilty Democratic.


47 posted on 09/17/2007 12:54:29 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: wardaddy
the lost demographic for white male candidates is black women....

AKA the Church Ladies. They are the ones you always see marching in "Anti-Gun" rallies in Newark and Camden too.

48 posted on 09/17/2007 12:57:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Slate?
I’d take anything I’d found in Slate with a generous dose of salt; how’s it said, “lies, damn lies and statistics”? You can find a statistic to back up darned near any claim these days.

What I really, really want to know is, typically, what proportion of the eligible voters actually bother to “vote” in a presidential election? What percentage of those eligible to vote are registered and then, what percentage of eligible voters typically vote in a presidential election? I was utterly stunned by the low turnout in my arguably “blue collar/retiree” mix neighborhood in 2004. And frankly, I’m really beginning to wonder the extent to which the vote counting is cooked.


49 posted on 09/17/2007 1:09:48 PM PDT by glide625
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To: kabar

>>It may be racist thinking, but the reality is that blacks vote 90% Dem in presidential elections and Hispanics vote over 65% Dem. There are no black Reps in Congress and very few Hispanics, mainly Cuban-Americans. So who exactly is being racist?<<

You prove my point. One of the large repositories of racism in the country right now is contained in the black community. Many black leaders say things about themselves and people of other races that would be scandalous if spoken by a pale penis person. (Some examples: blacks can’t be racist because they have no power; white people are “ice people”; the CIA purposely deveoped crack for blacks to keep them in the ghetto.) In fact, it’s the hallmark of the racist to believe that their group is a victim, that their heritage was once noble, and that others are less than human.

Many of the pale penis people I know - from all sorts of political stripes - are some of the most decent, non-racist individuals I know. On the other hand, I know several “minority” people with chips the size of Mount Everest on their shoulders and attitudes about hating others outside their race and ethnicity which would make the Klan proud.

White segregationists also had a high percentage voting Democrat. Hmmm.


50 posted on 09/17/2007 1:22:02 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a democrat’s eye, the only good things about white males is they pay taxes and child support.


51 posted on 09/17/2007 1:45:24 PM PDT by jackieaxe (I'm voting for Ron Paul in spite of the Neocon/Big Government Republican propaganda!)
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To: redpoll
You said, “Race-obsessed leftists think skin pigment determines individual choices, political leanings, and personality.” The last time I looked, folks who think skin pigment determines those things belonged to the Klan, the National Socialist party, the Nation of Islam... and, of course, academics and elitists currently living in the United States. Where’s the barf alert!?

It is not a matter of conjecture or thinking. Race/ethnicity and religion do determine voting patterns in this country. Blacks, Hispanics, and Jews vote overwhelmingly Dem in Presidential elections. They are the most loyal Dem constituencies. The Black Caucus [42], Hispanic Caucus[23 counting the Sanchez sisters who resigned recently from the Caucus], and Jewish members [29] total 94 of the 232 Dems in the House or 40% of the Dem representation.

52 posted on 09/17/2007 1:59:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

effete leftist of madison avenue abandoned the white male long ago.

Look at any television commercial they have the liberated female, the “magic negro” (see L.A.Times for that reference), and they have the ethnic stereotype. There is no place for the white male consumer for madison avenue other than as a charicature or a joke.

The NYC frame of mind carries over to the candidates. Even Guiliani cross dresses in accord with the white male as joke MEME of the new marketing propaganda.

Perhaps the article should simply state the truth, the white males understand the mission of the leftists of the modern Democrat Party. There is no reason to vote for those who wish to kill you.


53 posted on 09/17/2007 2:35:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stylin19a

This article is Orwellian in its doublespeak.

It translates as follwos “those grapes were sour anyways”

They can’t get the vote with the lies so they discount the vote as irrelevant.


54 posted on 09/17/2007 2:47:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: redpoll
In fact, that’s all the Democrats notice is skin.

plenty of freepers do it too..alas

55 posted on 09/17/2007 2:51:15 PM PDT by wardaddy (Pigpen lives!!!!)
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To: wardaddy

Don’t kid yourself. A good-looking, leather-miniskirted, boots-wearing, young black babe with two to three inch decorated nails (and a cushy government job)isn’t going to vote for a honky, either. I call them ‘gumcrackers.’ They’re the militant ones who, by and large, claim O.J. was framed.


56 posted on 09/19/2007 10:12:55 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: penowa

namely, the ones Ted Kennedy put in place back in the 60’s, which favor third-world country folk over europeans.


57 posted on 09/19/2007 10:16:19 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
I know that....I was trying to not over generalize and toss out a bone..

that description is too funny

I see a head bobbing GUUUURL!!!

58 posted on 09/19/2007 10:17:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (Pigpen lives!!!!)
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To: wardaddy

that description is too funny


Feel free to use it anytime, I have no patent on it. ;^)


59 posted on 09/19/2007 10:20:53 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

Perfect description-busted a gut!


60 posted on 09/19/2007 10:21:19 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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