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Why Did FDR Invade North Africa?
American Thinker ^ | September 17, 2007 | James Lewis

Posted on 09/17/2007 1:50:50 AM PDT by OneHun

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To: jamaksin

Of course I mentioned Potsdam. Since the Clintons, I am not too sure. Invading Morocco gave the Axis powers no chance to throw Japan under the bus and remain neutral which would have been a good move. There was strong anti British and pro German sentiment in the US. Not to mention anti FDR since the 4th term
barbra ann


21 posted on 09/17/2007 3:43:50 AM PDT by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: OneHun

now if on 9/12/01, Bush would have rounded up all known foreign Islamics, and put them in detention camps as a prelude to deportation, and then locked down the borders, then I may have the respect for him that is generally given to the socialist FDR.

The time was right for this and he could have done it then. But this one-world globalist president of ours had other fish to fry so as to cement his legacy. He is his fathers son.


22 posted on 09/17/2007 3:44:40 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: xkaydet65
America’s first offensive was indeed against Japan. At a festering island called Guadalcanal in Aug 1942.

Dad, passed away last September....and he was there in Aug '42 to help de-fester that Soloman Island. Semper Fi Pop.

23 posted on 09/17/2007 3:48:29 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: caver
This article makes FDR sound like a military genius. I didn’t know FDR planned the whole WWII by himself.

He had Eleanor doing most of the leg work for him.

24 posted on 09/17/2007 3:49:42 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: caver
FDR, if not a military genius, was a very astute observer of humanity and knew to pick good men to do the job for him, such as Harry Hopkins as personal envoy, George Marshall as Chief of Staff, and Eisenhower as SACEUR.

Meanwhile, Stalin, the leftist’s hero, was demanding a sanguinary and sacrificial landing on the French coast to relieve pressure on the Red Army, and his flunkies demanded “SECOND FRONT NOW!” in New York and Los Angeles.

Let us let the military men fight the military battles and the politicians to fight the political battles and let us not let the roles cross. Unfortunately, the Clintons don’t see the difference between the two roles; thus we have a Richard Clark.

25 posted on 09/17/2007 3:51:59 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: jamaksin

The real winners of WWII? Germany and especially Japan. look at their economies.


26 posted on 09/17/2007 3:56:11 AM PDT by fredhead (Teach a man to fish.......and he'll fish for a lifetime.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

“He had Eleanor doing most of the leg work for him.”

That’s bad!


27 posted on 09/17/2007 3:58:32 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: GAB-1955

“FDR, if not a military genius, was a very astute observer of humanity and knew to pick good men to do the job for him, such as Harry Hopkins as personal envoy, George Marshall as Chief of Staff, and Eisenhower as SACEUR.”

Good point!


28 posted on 09/17/2007 3:59:39 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: OneHun
If we had lost in the desert against Rommel, Britain might now be a Nazi province.

Well hardly. The Battle of El Alamein was the descisive victory against Rommel. Operation Torch was an attempt to stop the Afrika Corps from escaping in good order. It was a good try, but the Germans got away anyway.

29 posted on 09/17/2007 4:08:33 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: OneHun

What about Guadalcanal....it was in August...... is an Island not land?


30 posted on 09/17/2007 4:13:25 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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To: OneHun
For human civilization, it would be a great win. If we can do it.

If we can WILL do it.

Africa or Guadalcanal first? How about Tokyo and the Doolittle raid? Regardless, Roosevelt always understood that Germany was the greater threat.

31 posted on 09/17/2007 4:13:48 AM PDT by libertylover (Liberals: Trying to convert the U.S. into a country the Founding Father's wouldn't recognize.)
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To: Kozak
Anyone above idiot who can read a map knows why we invaded Iraq.

Very true, but how many people can read and understand a map?

32 posted on 09/17/2007 4:17:20 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: barb-tex

Hitler had already declared war on the US on 12/11/41.


33 posted on 09/17/2007 4:18:34 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: caver

To a staunch Republican, Eleanor must have been more sickening than Hillary back then.


34 posted on 09/17/2007 4:19:46 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: OneHun

Consider last week’s disclosure of Syria’s purchase of nuclear materials from North Korea, and negotiations for the purchase of missles from the same source. Now consider that Saddam was in negotiations with North Korea for missles for Iraq at the time of our invasion and that North Korea was ramping up production of nuclear materials at the time. - A good case, standing on it’s own, for pre-emptive action against Iraq.


35 posted on 09/17/2007 4:20:48 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: USS Alaska
Very true, but how many people can read and understand a map?

There are many Americans who do not have maps...

36 posted on 09/17/2007 4:21:06 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: R. Scott
“We fought Rommel in the desert, along with the British Army and the Free French”

While an interesting article by James Lewis, and one that I do not take any major exception to; I do grind my teeth whenever I see the French characterized as our Allies during WWII. The fact is, when given a choice before we made the beachhead in North Africa (btw, our first, sort of OJT so to speak for later events), some French units chose to fight along-side the Germans. It is also humorous and ironic that today, over sixty years after the war, virtually every French person’s grandpa was a Freedom Fighter. Now there is some revisionist history for you....

37 posted on 09/17/2007 4:27:05 AM PDT by snoringbear (')
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To: OneHun

Liberals go to pubik schoolz so them don’t know no history. Besides history would challenge their “beliefs.” Remember what Ronald Reagan said, “It isn’t that they (democrats, liberals etc.)don’t know anything. It’s that so much of what they ‘know’ is not so.”


38 posted on 09/17/2007 4:33:29 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Union work: comparable value for twice the price.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

And to most Democrats. Don’t forget in 1941 The Dems still held the “solid South” which is maybe why we were able to win the war. Today’s Blue Staters whold have sued for peace in the dark days of ‘42.
barbra ann


39 posted on 09/17/2007 4:45:39 AM PDT by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: caver

“This article makes FDR sound like a military genius.”

It was the Dirty Martinis.


40 posted on 09/17/2007 4:54:43 AM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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