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BAE Systems' stealth ship concept to operate unmanned systems
Flight International ^ | 18/09/07 | Craig Hoyle

Posted on 09/18/2007 5:07:58 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

BAE Systems' stealth ship concept to operate unmanned systems at sea

By Craig Hoyle

BAE Systems has revealed a conceptual design for a future stealthy naval vessel optimised for the launch, operation and recovery of unmanned systems - potentially including operational unmanned combat air vehicles - which it says could enter service in the post-2020 timeframe.

Drawing heavily from the design of BAE's new Type 45 destroyer for the UK Royal Navy, the notional UXB Combatant is pictured configured with twin flight decks suitable for helicopter and unmanned air vehicle operations, including one with a variable pitch ski jump to deploy short take-off systems.

BAE, which has researched the concept in partnership with companies including Rolls-Royce, says the 8,000t UXV design could provide a "cost-effective solution" to naval customers seeking the ability to operate "large numbers of small unmanned vehicles for extended periods".

The UK's Taranis UCAV demonstration project has, meanwhile, moved a step closer, with BAE having released CAD models of the design to suppliers ahead of first metal being cut in late September. Assembly activities will commence before year-end.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; baesystems; navy; stealth
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1 posted on 09/18/2007 5:08:03 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I wonder how an unmanned system would survive in a hostile environment. A ship is remarkably robust given damage control, the ability to quickly change yoke conditions and respond to hasty repairs to keep afloat. Even if all the hatches were remote controlled, it doesn’t take much to damage remote controls.


2 posted on 09/18/2007 5:12:55 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Cvengr

I’m a bit more concerned about the link to type 45. I have serious reservations about that class, which I hope will be unfounded.


3 posted on 09/18/2007 5:18:51 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Cvengr

I, for one, am wondering how effective UAVs would be against sophisticated opponents. I mean, how hard can it be to jam the telemetry links?


4 posted on 09/18/2007 5:20:36 AM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Cvengr
At only 8,000 tons, prolly wouldn’t take much to blow it out of the water, so damage control may be moot. On the other hand, its size may make it a difficult target. I think ‘expend-ability’ may be the key here.
5 posted on 09/18/2007 5:25:23 AM PDT by Roccus (Hillary........brought to you by the PRC)
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To: Cvengr
...it doesn’t take much to damage remote controls.

Something that engineers never seem to remember when they remain cosseted in the ivory tower long enough.

Theoretical systems do NOTHING.

6 posted on 09/18/2007 5:27:00 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Cvengr

“...it doesn’t take much to damage remote controls.”

I hear ya bro, my wife’s always sitting on ours..


7 posted on 09/18/2007 5:27:20 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Cvengr
I don't think the ship is unmanned. It's a UCAV-carrier.
8 posted on 09/18/2007 5:28:45 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: papertyger

Theoretically speaking, they do everything


9 posted on 09/18/2007 5:29:42 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Cvengr

The unmanned systems that they’re talking about are the Predator-type aircraft that the ship would launch. The ship itself is manned.


10 posted on 09/18/2007 5:30:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Ronin

“how hard can it be to jam the telemetry links?”

It depends. It isn’t necessarily a trivial task, so the premise of your question is, I think, unfounded.


11 posted on 09/18/2007 5:32:52 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: agere_contra

‘I don’t think the ship is unmanned. It’s a UCAV-carrier.’

Some of the posters on here must’ve thought the windows were for the computers to see out of! :D


12 posted on 09/18/2007 5:33:28 AM PDT by britemp
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To: Cvengr

Maybe I’m misreading the article, but I don’t think the ship is unmanned. I think it’s just intended for the deployment and retrieval of other unmanned systems (UAVs and the like). But then, it’s early, and I’m under caffeinated so I might be way off.


13 posted on 09/18/2007 5:33:33 AM PDT by faloi
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To: Vanders9

‘I have serious reservations about that class, which I hope will be unfounded.’

What are those reservations?


14 posted on 09/18/2007 5:33:59 AM PDT by britemp
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I read 8,000 tons and I typed 8,000 tons, but my mind saw 800 tons!

Need more coffee!!!!


15 posted on 09/18/2007 5:38:01 AM PDT by Roccus (Hillary........brought to you by the PRC)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Theoretically speaking, they do everything

Amen FRiend.

I never tire of telling the engineers at my papermill "if people could wipe their a$$ with 'theoretical paper,' you guys wouldn't need us."

16 posted on 09/18/2007 5:39:31 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Roccus
"I read 8,000 tons and I typed 8,000 tons, but my mind saw 800 tons!

Need more coffee!!!!


Could be worse. Last week, I opened our freezer and saw a container labeled "Lime Ice", which I promptly read as "Live Mice". Imagine my confusion!
17 posted on 09/18/2007 5:42:34 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I don't know why they call it a "stealth" ship - it's pretty easy to spot in this picture:

;->
18 posted on 09/18/2007 5:52:37 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

‘I don’t know why they call it a “stealth” ship - it’s pretty easy to spot in this picture:’

Ah, but there are two ships in the picture - the one at the front has it’s stealth systems turned off, whereas the one at the back. . . . . . :)


19 posted on 09/18/2007 6:02:05 AM PDT by britemp
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To: britemp
but there are two ships in the picture - the one at the front has it’s stealth systems turned off, whereas the one at the back. . . . . . :)

< slaps head > D'oh!

Guess I flunked my military analyst's exam, huh?

20 posted on 09/18/2007 6:31:44 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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