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Children force another child to perform sex act on school bus
wzzm 13 news website ^ | 9-18-07 | Lansing State Journal

Posted on 09/19/2007 11:18:56 AM PDT by mombyprofession

2 Howell boys accused of forcing classmate to have sex on bus

Lansing State Journal

Created: 9/18/2007 8:41:02 PM Updated: 9/18/2007 8:41:30 PM

Special to the State Journal

HOWELL - Two Howell elementary school boys - ages 9 and 11 - have been charged as juveniles with criminal sexual conduct for allegedly making a 7-year-old boy perform oral sex while on a school bus in May.

The father of the 11-year-old boy, however, said his son merely witnessed the attacks and was himself a victim of a similar attempted sexual assault by the 9-year-old. He questioned the safety of students on Howell buses

"We take it for granted our children are safe," the 38-year-old father said. "We're worried about predators coming up to the bus stop, not being on the bus. How can you think our children are safe? The school should be accountable for what happens on the bus."

Although the events reportedly happened at the end of the school year, Superintendent Chuck Breiner said he just learned of the alleged sexual assaults on Monday when the 11-year-old boy's father called him to ask why his son was questioned by the school principal and a police officer without his knowledge.

Police reports indicate that the 7-year-old reported that on several occasions he was forced to perform a sex act on the 9-year-old boy. The incidents are alleged to have taken place toward the end of the after-school bus route when there were few students on the bus.

School buses have cameras but a video tape is inconclusive, said Breiner.

Juvenile court records indicate the 9- and 11-year-old boys are each charged with first- and second-degree criminal sexual conduct.

If convicted as charged, both boys also would have to register as sex offenders for life.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: child; homeschoolyourkids; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; school; sexoffender
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This is such a sad situation. How horrible. See another version of the story at http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7095705.
1 posted on 09/19/2007 11:19:02 AM PDT by mombyprofession
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To: mombyprofession

Another homo sex predator. sigh.


2 posted on 09/19/2007 11:20:01 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: mombyprofession
If convicted as charged, both boys also would have to register as sex offenders for life.

Wow...what a great start to one's life. Registered as a sex offender at age 9.

3 posted on 09/19/2007 11:21:19 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the frequently disappointed but ever optimistic Mets fan)
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To: CodeToad
Unbelievable.

There is no innocence anymore.

I didn't even know what this was until at least middle teens.

A lost generation -- Lord of the Flies lives!

4 posted on 09/19/2007 11:22:13 AM PDT by CWW (Make the most of the loss, and regroup for 2008!!)
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To: mombyprofession

Sadly, the only thing surprising about a story like this these days...

...is that a father was mentioned.


5 posted on 09/19/2007 11:24:08 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: mombyprofession

It was not a sex act, ask President Clinton, who is more than willing to set the example for our country’s youth.


6 posted on 09/19/2007 11:24:44 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: CodeToad

How is a nine and 11 year old a “homo”? The 9 yr. old certainly hasn’t hit puberty and probably has little idea why he’s doing this. It’s our over-sexed culture that causes these things. These kids learn it from somewhere.


7 posted on 09/19/2007 11:25:16 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: mombyprofession

It used to be that kids were given some “health ed” in 5th grade and had “sex ed” in 7th grade.

IMO this is the result of teaching kindergardeners “sex ed”, with the additional push that homosexual acts are OK.


8 posted on 09/19/2007 11:26:32 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: mombyprofession

Lansing?

That’s all I need to know.


9 posted on 09/19/2007 11:26:36 AM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: mombyprofession
Makes me wonder what goes on in the homes of these children who forced this child. I hope social services are looking into the home lives.

I always have believed there needs to be be another adult on the buses then just the bus driver. I think there are just too many children for a bus driver to watch & drive at the same time.

10 posted on 09/19/2007 11:27:31 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: mombyprofession

And people wonder why my kids don’t ride the bus. I take them to school every day.


11 posted on 09/19/2007 11:27:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: mombyprofession

Disgusting.........what is this world coming to?


12 posted on 09/19/2007 11:27:42 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: mombyprofession
This is so horrible. If my child went to that school I would insist that many, many heads roll. Where is the adult supervision, both parental and school-based? This loss of innocence is also the product of our depraved pop-culture. These things add a lot of fuel to the claims that we are a lost and decadent society.
13 posted on 09/19/2007 11:27:48 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pandoraou812

They’ve no doubt been abused if they are doing things like this.


14 posted on 09/19/2007 11:28:49 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: jjm2111
If he didn't learn it because someone was molesting him...o via homo-sex-ed in school.

So sad. Our culture is going down the sewer.

15 posted on 09/19/2007 11:29:29 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: jjm2111

“How is a nine and 11 year old a “homo”? The 9 yr. old certainly hasn’t hit puberty and probably has little idea why he’s doing this. It’s our over-sexed culture that causes these things. These kids learn it from somewhere.

So, you are saying a person doesn’t know if they are hetero or homo until puberty?? Tell, us, Dr. Spock, all about that definition.


16 posted on 09/19/2007 11:30:10 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: mombyprofession

Just remember where this all started. Oral sex became the norm with teenagers when it was ok’d by Bill the original pedophile Clinton. This behavior has now trickled down to seven, eight, and nine year olds. Bill introduced oral sex to many young girls because Monica was so young. Just barely older than his own daughter. What a sad legacy. Remember we dont need four more years of any Clinton.


17 posted on 09/19/2007 11:31:27 AM PDT by cquiggy
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To: darkangel82
Yes sadly I think it has to be that. I hope if that is so they get the parents and maybe get to the bottom of why this happened.
18 posted on 09/19/2007 11:32:29 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: mombyprofession

My God. 9 & 11 years old! When I was that age back in the late 1960’s I was thinking of building tree forts,buying monster magazines,fishing,going to the boardwalk,etc....
This is just sick!


19 posted on 09/19/2007 11:36:44 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Sorry Mr. BOR.)
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To: metmom

Ping. This story is so sickening.


20 posted on 09/19/2007 11:37:42 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: mombyprofession

We are exposing our kids to too much information at too early an age. Now we are reaping the whirlwind.

Whatever our opinions of sex education are, the popular media is drowing our kids in filth. As a parent you can do your best to keep your kids from it. You simply cannot do it in total though.

Unless you keep your kid in a closet 24 hours a day, never send them to school or over to another child’s home to play, your kids will see what is presented by our nation’s media. And some of them will act it out.

This isn’t an isolated incident. This type of thing is taking place quite often these days. We only hear about it once in a while.


21 posted on 09/19/2007 11:38:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits...)
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To: mombyprofession
The police had better investigate that 9 year old but good - it should be glaringly obvious to everyone on the thread that the 9 year old is most likely a victim of molestation himself.

Somewhere in this story is an adult waiting to be arrested.

22 posted on 09/19/2007 11:39:01 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: jjm2111; All
 

These kids learn it from somewhere.

Just a couple of sources among many:

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23 posted on 09/19/2007 11:39:08 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: mombyprofession
Wonder if this was covered in their sex-ed classes.

I'm half-serious here.

24 posted on 09/19/2007 11:40:04 AM PDT by wbill
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To: jjm2111

That was my question - WHY DOES THIS 9 YEAR OLD KNOW WHAT THIS IS?

Blame the secular left. Vehemently, and with vengeance.


25 posted on 09/19/2007 11:40:48 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: mombyprofession; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Lazamataz; Darksheare; pissant; najida; r-q-tek86; ...
I am betting this happened to the older boy and he is repeating the cycle....

SAD....very sad.

26 posted on 09/19/2007 11:45:27 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: CWW

Clearly what they need is more sex education and especially more homosexual sex education. /sarc


27 posted on 09/19/2007 11:45:38 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: mombyprofession

I have heard of this happening with older kids, but never grade school. The victims are usually special ed kids.


28 posted on 09/19/2007 11:46:31 AM PDT by Eva
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To: mombyprofession

Nothing wrong here.

It’s not sex.

bill clinton told us so....


29 posted on 09/19/2007 11:48:08 AM PDT by Wil H (Turning $1000 into $100,000 through cattle futures requires the "willing suspension of disbelief")
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To: cinives

You get the Most Right-On Post of the Day for that one :)


30 posted on 09/19/2007 11:48:12 AM PDT by Dasaji (The U.S.A. is the Land of Opportunity and you've got 50 states to do it in!)
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To: CWW
Unbelievable. There is no innocence anymore.

At our town pond this summer, a nine-year-old boy, who was very interested in my daughter, told her, "I have a six-pack! See!" Yeah, so much for innocence.

31 posted on 09/19/2007 11:48:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: wideawake

I agree.


32 posted on 09/19/2007 11:48:28 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: Aquinasfan

Did she say: “Good for you. My daddy has a six-shooter!”


33 posted on 09/19/2007 11:49:59 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: AppyPappy
And people wonder why my kids don’t ride the bus. I take them to school every day.

I wish my parents had, and that was thirty years ago. The inmates were running the asylum then.

34 posted on 09/19/2007 11:50:01 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: wideawake
Did she say: “Good for you. My daddy has a six-shooter!”

I hope not. That could get you booted out of school these days.

35 posted on 09/19/2007 11:52:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (All we are sa-a-a-ying, is give Beast a chance.)
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To: wideawake
Did she say: “Good for you. My daddy has a six-shooter!”

Trust me, I've bitten the heads off of little brats before. But I didn't this time. He was barely nine, for cryin' out loud. But I watched him carefully after that ;-)

36 posted on 09/19/2007 11:53:56 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: toddlintown

Not Lansing. It was in their newspaper.

They are boys from Howell. THAT is surprising. I thought that was a nice area.


37 posted on 09/19/2007 11:54:39 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: DoughtyOne
I think that we pay too little attention to the messages TV, movies, and songs are putting out there for our kids. Step back and just watch a popular animated TV show sometime. How are the dads portrayed? the moms? Who are the ones that are 'in charge?' What about churches and ministers in general? Listen to women being called vile names in music and see how they are portrayed in videos - just pieces of meat. Even those idiotic BRATZ dolls for little girls are inappropriate

You are right - we are indeed reaping a whirlwind and I pity the death of innocence.

38 posted on 09/19/2007 11:55:21 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: grellis

MI ping!


39 posted on 09/19/2007 11:55:44 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: mombyprofession
If convicted as charged, both boys also would have to register as sex offenders for life.

Sounds good to me. That sort of thing does not stop.

40 posted on 09/19/2007 11:56:26 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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I wish my parents had, and that was thirty years ago. The inmates were running the asylum then.

Yep, I saw some wild stuff on the school bus....but that was high school. I was in walking distance to elementary school so we had to walk, no bus.

41 posted on 09/19/2007 11:56:43 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: CodeToad
So, you are saying a person doesn’t know if they are hetero or homo until puberty?? Tell, us, Dr. Spock, all about that definition.

So you are saying that Homosexuality is genetic, or a natural trait?

Many on this Board would argue that it is perverted lifestyle "choice"... (I would not be one of them but many you will find here)

42 posted on 09/19/2007 11:57:01 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: 4yearlurker

When you were that age the schools weren’t pushing sexuality and homosexuality on first graders.


43 posted on 09/19/2007 11:59:58 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: jjm2111

Just the fact that we have damned Viagra and Levitra commercials on boils my blood. TV is so sexualized - everything, including ads - and few don’t want to give it up. I like some things, but mostly TV offends me with all the sexuality.

And people wonder why there is such a porno problem, or rape problem, and ever-increasing perversion in CHILDREN. We’re obsessed with sex, that’s why, and it shows in PUB(L)IC.


44 posted on 09/19/2007 12:00:32 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

IMO you’re asking the right questions, and coming to the right conclusions.

I am particularly impressed to see you touch on father and mother roles, and how they are portrayed.

A lot of people think the liberal bias ends at the MSM, news and adult programing line. It doesn’t. There’s a massive effort to indoctrinate children through popular culture programming. We’re not just talking about ecology and animal matter here either. It’s how children are being indoctrinated to relate to each other and future families as they enter adulthood.


45 posted on 09/19/2007 12:01:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits... and king Lerach would like a call. < wicked witch laughter >)
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To: DoughtyOne
We are exposing our kids to too much information at too early an age.

"Exposing" is too passive a word. The media are "exposing" it. The schools are shoveling into their brains.

46 posted on 09/19/2007 12:01:49 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: mombyprofession
Kids try out what they are taught how to do = got kids in the gov’t indoctrination camps aka public schools = don’t be shocked if it happens to your kids -
47 posted on 09/19/2007 12:01:57 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: darkangel82
They’ve no doubt been abused if they are doing things like this.

An assumption that doesn't excuse their actions one iota.

48 posted on 09/19/2007 12:02:36 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: arthurus

I agree with that.


49 posted on 09/19/2007 12:04:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits... and king Lerach would like a call. < wicked witch laughter >)
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To: AppyPappy
I take them to school every day.

To public school? You have only skirted a tiny part of the problem. Public school is prima facie child abuse.

50 posted on 09/19/2007 12:06:19 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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