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Chronological Order of Events Concerning the Jena Six (Updated)
The Jena Times ^ | 9-20-07 | Staff

Posted on 09/20/2007 9:55:50 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

Edited on 09/24/2007 11:56:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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August 30, 2006: During a Wednesday assembly of all males at Jena High School, many items were discussed concerning rules and policies of the school for the new school year. Such items included dress codes, etc. Near the end of the assembly, one black student jokingly asked Assistant Principal Gawen Burgess if black students were permitted to sit underneath the tree in the center of the square located in the center of the campus. The question evoked laughter from everyone at the meeting, including the black students, with Burgess responding, “Don´t even go there. You know you can sit anywhere you want.” Burgess and the rest of the students knew the remark was made to gain laughter as a joke, not as a serious question. A couple more jokes were also made (not about the tree) before the lighthearted assembly was dismissed.

August 31, 2006: On this Thursday morning two “hangman” nooses were found hanging from the lone tree in the center of the area known as the Square, located on the center of Jena High School´s campus. Some students had arrived and saw the nooses, but as soon as they were brought to the attention of school officials, they were removed. Students that arrived after 7:15 a.m. did not even see the nooses, as they had already been removed. The three white students who placed the nooses in the tree were identified by school officials, a school investigation was held, and they were removed from school with a recommendation by Principal Scott Windham for expulsion. A hearing by an expulsion committee ruled against expulsion and instead suspended the three students. The committee´s investigation revealed there were no racial motivation behind the nooses and that the incident was a prank. The overwhelming majority of students at Jena High School did not even know about the nooses until the following week, when it was published in daily newspaper reports and TV programs.

An external, criminal investigation did take place in the days that followed the nooses being found, with police, including an agent with the FBI, interviewing the three students. All agencies concluded the same: The noose incident did not meet the criteria for a federal “hate” crime and although it was a terrible act that should have been punished within the school system, it did not warrant criminal charges from either the state (local district attorney´s office) or the federal government. (It was learned later that the US Attorney´s Office did review the noose incident through its civil rights division and also came to the same conclusions.)

September 1, 2006: Some black students have said they participated in a “protest” at the school this day in response to the noose incident the prior day. They said they met underneath the tree in an act of solidarity; however, this was the only report of such a protest. The school officials note that if such a protest was conducted, it apparently did not disrupt school enough to draw their attention to the incident. For the most part, the majority of students at JHS still did not even know about the nooses being hung.

The following four days, September 2-5: There were no reports of violence or confrontations in the town or at JHS. Students were out of school on Monday, September 4, and on Tuesday, the school did report one fight at school, but it was not linked to the noose incident. However, on Tuesday night, September 5, several black parents and students attended a rally at the L&A Missionary Baptist Church to discuss the noose incident and how to respond. The event was covered by this area´s daily newspaper, which published an article on Wednesday, describing the noose incident as “racial.” Television stations then caught on to the story, and segments were broadcasts that same day, again describing the incident as racially motivated. It should be noted that no law enforcement agency, including the FBI, has determined the noose incident to be racially motivated.

September 6, 2006: The result of the media coverage was a tense atmosphere at the school Wednesday, September 6, where at least two fights occurred between students. One of those altercations was between a white girl and black girl, and another sent a white student to the emergency room for stitches to the back of his head after he was hit from behind while walking to class in a hallway. Because of the media attention, police officers from the Jena Police Department and the LaSalle Parish Sheriff´s Department stayed at the school most of the day, especially during time when students were out of classes. The tension also prompted Principal Scott Windham to call an assembly of all students, where he, LaSalle School Superintendent Roy Breithaupt, and LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters addressed students. A faculty meeting was also held that afternoon, setting new duty posts for teachers and requiring all male teachers to be on duty at all times.

September 7, 2006: On Thursday, September 7, as the media continued to flame the racial winds, police officers were again at the school as students arrived and stayed throughout the day until they left to go home. There were no reports of any misconduct related to the noose incident. But because of the area-wide media attention, a football game between the Jena Junior High School Giants and the Vidalia Junior High School Vikings, that was to have taken place at JHS, was cancelled.

September 8, 2006: Shortly after students arrived to school on Friday, the school went into “lock-down” mode after a report was received that a student had brought a gun to school.

For approximately three hours, students stayed inside classrooms as police officers searched the school grounds and students for weapons. No such weapons were found, but a large number of cell phones were confiscated. It is against state-law to bring cell phones on campus.

Because of the large array of rumors that circulated during the week, culminated with all types of reasons why the school went into lock-down mode Friday morning, parents began arriving at the school by 11:15 a.m. to check their children out of school.

Some 150 students did not even show up to start school Friday, and by the time over 160 more students checked out (in about 30 minutes) following the lock-down, well over half of the student body at JHS was not even in school by Friday afternoon.

Classes had been reduced in size drastically, with some classes with 26 students enrolled having only four or five in attendance. The massive exodus from JHS prompted Superintendent Breithaupt to make a radio statement on KJNA shortly after lunch Friday. In his radio broadcast with Owner-Disc Jockey Larry Evans, Breithaupt said:

“The LaSalle Parish School System has a history of providing inclusive and safe schools and we´re committed to this tradition. “It´s very unfortunate that we cannot control everyone´s behavior and we cannot control what people say sometimes, but we´re very confident in the fact that we have very safe schools. “Jena High School is a safe school and we have confidence in the administration and the teachers because we know these are individuals whose primary concern is to protect students and provide for their needs and provide them a quality education. And I can tell you that at Jena High School you will find a safe school today. We have local law enforcement on duty just to make sure things are going right. The school was inspected by our local law enforcement and found to be safe. There have been no major incidents over the last few days, so there is really no justification for any alarm on the part of any parent or anyone caring for a child. We´re closely monitoring the situation at Jena High School. I just returned from JHS myself – had lunch there – and I found everyone to be very calm and looking forward to the ballgame tonight. And I can tell you that JHS, at this present time, is a very safe learning environment. As a matter of fact, the most protected place children can be today is at school. I´ve seen teenagers driving vehicles up and down roads, driving at high rates of speed, and I know that if those children would not have been checked out of school, they would be in the classroom where they would be learning and taking advantage of the opportunities we have for them.” The superintendent further stated that parents need not fear for their students and their reaction by pulling them out of school simply had no justification. “It´s unfortunate that things like this happen. I understand that parents want to protect their children but sometimes, due to the fact that we cannot control rumors and we cannot control information that is false, people are given information that is not necessarily correct. In this particular case, I think there is much concern on the part of many people that really has no justification. They (parents) can be confident in the fact that we´re going to provide a quality education to the students of LaSalle Parish and our primary concern is that we have good, safe schools that provide students everything they would have need of,” Breithaupt concluded.

That night, the week ended with a strong police presence at the Jena-Buckeye football game, but nothing out of the ordinary occurred at the game.

On the sidelines during the game, one Jena player stated that all of the things being said about the school in the media and around the parish is simply not true.

“Sure, there may be some whites that don´t like blacks, and there may be some blacks that don´t like whites, but that is a very small minority here,” the player said. “At JHS, we´re neither black or white…we´re black and gold!”

September 18, 2006: Black parent Tracey Bowen addressed the LaSalle Parish School Board at their regular monthly meeting concerning the noose incident. Bowen said that she was there on behalf of all parents, defending her and several other black parents´ recent cries of racism following an incident at JHS where two hangman´s nooses were discovered at the school.

“Everyone says that we went overboard but I don´t believe we went overboard with this,” she said. “Right is right – no matter what color you are.”

Three white JHS students were suspended following the incident after it was discovered their motivation was not racism but rather a prank taken from a movie.

Bowen contended that even if it was a prank, the punishment warranted much more, given the history of American racism against blacks.

“We´re all equal and we only want what is right,” she continued. “What goes for one goes for all.”

Bowen read from a prepared statement and that took less than five minutes to read. Approximately ten other black supporters were there with her.

Following her statements, the board thanked Bowen for her comments and moved to the next item on the agenda. Because the issue involved students of a school, board members are prohibited from discussing them or information about the incident in public due to confidentiality reasons.

September 9-November 30, 2006: Despite the media promoting racial tension, there were no such reports of any violence or destruction during this time period. Disruptions at school were only those of typical disruptions, nothing related to any racial divide, thus, putting to rest any speculation that there were true racial tensions in town.

November 30, 2006: Around 4 a.m., Thursday, November 30, the Jena Fire Department received an alarm that the main, two-story academic building of Jena High School was on fire. They arrived to find the building nearly engulfed in flames and soon called for every fire department in the parish to respond for assistance.

Within 20 minutes, departments from across the parish converged on the scene to assist with the fire.

At total of 98 firefighters from 15 different departments and 32 other assistant personnel fought the blaze until it was finally extinguished around 11 a.m. Officials from the Louisiana State Fire Marshal´s Office were also at the scene, and quickly determined the cause of the fire – arson.

According to sources, one fire was started in the main office complex of the building, specifically in Principal Scott Windham´s office. There were also multiple fires set on the second floor in various classrooms. The result was a fire that firefighters in the parish have only read about or watched training films on.

There still have been no arrests made in connection with the arson fire and officials do not believe it is related to the noose incident.

November 30th also marked the changing of command at Jena High School, as Principal Scott Windham was promoted to a position at the school system´s central office and was replaced by new JHS Principal Slick Joiner.

December 1, 2006: The first time law enforcement officials used the term “racial tensions” was in describing the events of the weekend and subsequent Monday, in which several black-white altercations occurred. LaSalle Parish Sheriff´ Department Investigator Paul Smith said the unusual racial unrest throughout the community started Friday night, December 1, at a private party held at the Jena Fair Barn.

Although the party was private and held mostly white attendees, there were some black participants at the event. However, when a group of other black men showed up and wanted to be admitted, the result was a fight in front of the building.

Justin Sloan, 22, of Jena, a white participant of the party, was arrested by the sheriff´s office in connection with the fair barn fight, and this event led to other attacks throughout the area.

“Sometime later that night, there was another incident near the fair grounds but there were no arrests made in connection with that,” Smith said.

Robert Bailey, Jr. and at least one other member of the now famous “Jena Six,” were members of the group that raided the fair barn party.

December 2, 2006: On Saturday night, December 2, another altercation occurred at the Gotta-Go Grocery, a convenience store near the Jena Airport, that resulted in three Jena High School students arrested on several charges and the victim having to be treated at the hospital for injuries.

The victim, Matt Windham, alleges that three black males attacked and robbed him while the three accused are claiming self-defense.

Both the victim and those arrested offered different statements to police, however, eye witnesses to the event unrelated to the victim or those arrested, gave a report of the incident that corresponded with the victim.

Those arrested include: Robert Bailey, 17, of Jena; Ryan Simmons, 17, of Jena, and Theodare Shaw, 17, of Jena. All three are students at Jena High School and each were charged with second-degree robbery, theft of a firearm, and conspiracy to commit second-degree robbery.

No reports of any fights or attacks were noted for the following day, Sunday, December 3.

December 4, 2006: On Monday, December 4, one of the most violent attacks in Jena High School´s history was orchestrated by six black students on a lone white student, according to authorities.

The attack came less than four hours after students were allowed back on campus following the arson fire of JHS. According to witness statements, at the end of the lunch period, the six students jumped a white male student, beating him unconscious with him having to be carried from the school by ambulance to the emergency room. Trial testimony later identified Mychal Bell as the first of the group to strike Justin Barker, hitting him so hard from behind that it knocked him immediately unconscious. Other participants in the attack then joined Bell in kicking and stomping Barker as he lay defenseless and unconscious on the ground. Although Barker was released later that day from the hospital, it was reported that he continues to suffer pain from the attack. He did attend a senior class ring ceremony that same night, but had to leave early because of pain.

Shortly after the incident, sheriff´s detectives arrested Robert Bailey and Theodare Shaw again in connection with the attack, along with JHS standout football player Carwin Jones, 18, of Jena, Bryant R. Purvis, and two juveniles.

The six were originally arrested for second-degree battery related charges, however, LaSalle Parish District Attorney J. Reed Walters made the decision to up the charges to more serious offenses.

All six were arraigned on charges of conspiracy to commit second-degree murder and attempted second-degree murder.

Walters said that his office is charging one of the juveniles as an adult while the other will remain in juvenile court.

Mychal Bell, 16, of Jena, another standout JHS football player, was charged as an adult and had his bond set at $90,000.

Total bonds on each of the students from the Gotta-Go fight and the JHS attack were set at: Jones - $90,000; Bailey - $138,000; Shaw - $130,000; Purvis - $70,000; and Simmons - $60,000. (It should be noted that portions of some of the students´ bond were from the event at Gotta-Go Grocery, making them higher than others.) No information was available concerning bond on the other juvenile.

Investigator Smith noted that since the JHS attack on December 4, there have been no other reports of violence in the Jena area connected with the incidents.

From all evidence gathered by law enforcement detectives, the violent attack of Barker by six black students at Jena High School December 4 is not linked to the arson fire that destroyed the main academic building four days prior or the hanging of a noose at JHS in August.

Investigator Paul Smith of the LaSalle Parish Sheriff´s Department said the investigation so far has revealed no link between the fire or noose incidents and several fights throughout Jena over the previous weekend involving white and black students of JHS.

December 7, 2006: Approximately 35 ministers and lay-leaders from many Jena-area black and white churches met for over an hour last Thursday night, uniting in their efforts to promote peace among all citizens.

The ministers met at Trout Creek Baptist Church to start a new ministerial alliance group for Jena churches of all denominations and racial-ethnic groups. The meeting occurred just days following racial unrest throughout Jena, specifically involving students at Jena High School.

“We´re not here to talk about what has happened, but rather what we can do to address those issues from a spiritual basis,” Jena First Baptist Church Pastor Dominick DiCarlo told the group. “This is a spiritual problem and there is no other institution appointed by God to deal with the heart problem of man other than His church.”

DiCarlo said he believes all area ministers must unite to combat the spiritual forces that are attacking area young people and there must be a unified front for the sake of the entire community.

“We want to implement Biblical solutions and stress the value of powerful prayer among all believers, white and black,” he said.

By the end of the meeting, the group agreed in wording for a resolution to be printed in the newspaper (see resolution inside this issue) with all ministers´ signatures attached.

The clergy also agreed to address the situation from their individual pulpits during Sunday services, encouraging their members to pray and to seek peace among students and adults.

They also organized a prayer time last Sunday, December 10, at the four different schools in Jena – Jena High, Jena Junior High, Jena Elementary, and Good Pine Middle School.

At JHS alone, over 200 people from all denominations and racial groups met to pray for the school, its students, teachers, and administrators. Joiner even opened the doors of classrooms so people could walk inside each room and pray. The end of the event had all participants joining hands in the school square for a time of corporate prayer.

On Monday of this week, administrators invited all area ministers to have lunch at Jena High with the students and teachers.

December 13, 2006: Approximately 600 Jena residents filled the Guy Campbell Memorial Football Stadium Wednesday night, December 13, for a community-wide prayer and unity service sponsored by local ministers.

The new ministerial alliance, consisting of Jena area pastors of various denominations and ethnic memberships, organized the event during a special meeting of some 35 pastors and lay-leaders December 7.

The purpose of the new alliance and the prayer meeting last week was to unite all Christians in light of recent racial tensions surrounding Jena High School.

Jena has been plagued in recent weeks with a series of events containing racial overtones, culminating December 4 with a violent attack on the campus of Jena High School involving black and white students. Other events included fights throughout the Jena area involving blacks and whites, including JHS students, and the recent arson fire at the school November 30, although so far investigators have not linked the fire to racial motivations.

“Our purpose here tonight is not to talk about what has happened, but rather to pray for healing and unity for our community,” Midway Baptist Church Pastor Rick Feazell said in opening the service. “This is not a social problem, but a spiritual problem that can only be solved by God.”

SCHOOL OFFICIALS, POLICE OFFICIALS, AND OTHER GOVERNING OFFICIALS have all noted that there have been no racial incidents since the December 4, 2006, attack and subsequent arrests. However, some time at the beginning of 2007, black ministers pulled out of the LaSalle Ministerial Alliance and are no longer participating in the joint ministry.

March 7, 2007: A special meeting was held at Antioch Baptist Church near Jena for the formation of a LaSalle Branch of the NAACP. According to president Caseptla Bailey, who is also the mother of accused student Robert Bailey, Jr., over 100 people, including adults and youth, paid membership fees to join the organization. The committee known as the “Jena Six Defense Committee,” was also formed this night.

March 8, 2007: The first “Free the Jena Six” rally was held at the LaSalle Parish Courthouse in Jena with about 30 people in attendance. Along with some of the family members of the black students accused, members from the national ACLU and state NAACP were in attendance.

May 2, 2007: Approximately 40 people attended a rally on the steps of the LaSalle Parish Courthouse Wednesday afternoon, calling for the release and charges dropped on six former Jena High School students.

Some of the parents and family of the six accused students were at the rally, however, a large portion of those attending were from outside of LaSalle Parish.

Groups represented included the NAACP, ACLU, and the National Action Network.

June 25-28, 2007: The trial of Mychal Bell, the first of the Jena Six to go to trial from the December 4, 2006, attack, was held during this week. An all-white jury was selected, however, it should be noted that no potential black jurors showed up for jury duty, although several were summoned. Bell´s charges were reduced from attempted murder to aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated second-degree battery. He was convicted of both counts.

July 26, 2007: A community education forum was held at Good Pine Middle School led by US Attorney Donald Washington and FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge Lewis Chapman. At this forum, Washington said his office´s civil rights division has investigated all of the events in Jena during 2006, including the noose incident, the fights throughout town, and the December 4, 2006 attack. He said there were no civil right violations in any of the incidents…making specific reference to the noose incident. He also said the FBI has investigated the school system, police departments, sheriff´s department, district attorney´s office, and the 28th Judicial District Court system and found no violations of civil rights in any area.

July 31, 2007: An estimated crowd of 300 people descended upon the lawn of the LaSalle Parish Courthouse Tuesday, July 31, demonstrating their support for the black Jena High School students charged in connection with an attack at the school last December.

The protesters came to Jena from all over the country, including California and Washington, D.C., although only around 10 residents of LaSalle Parish were present. Most of those were family members of the students accused in the attack.

The protest was called for a day when Mychal Bell was originally set to be sentenced following his conviction of aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated second-degree battery during a jury trial in late June.

August 5, 2007: Rev. Al Sharpton made his first official visit to Jena, preaching in a service at Trout Creek Baptist Church during their Sunday morning service.

August 14, 2007: Rev. Al Sharpton made his second visit to Jena bringing with him Martin Lurther King, III, during a town hall meeting at Antioch Baptist Church on this Tuesday night.

August 24, 2007: Mychal Bell was back in court on a series of motions from his new pro-bono attorneys. They were successful in getting on the conviction counts thrown out, the conspiracy to commit aggravated second-degree battery, but Bell still faces sentenced on the aggravated second-degree battery count on September 20. He faces a maximum jail time of 15 years. It was also revealed during the hearing that Bell has a violent past as a juvenile, with at least four different violent arrests. He was also on juvenile probation during some of those arrests, and was on probation when the December 4, 2006 attack occurred.

September 12, 2007: Rev. Jesse Jackson made his first appearance in Jena during a meeting with some 300 people at Good Pine Middle School Sunday afternoon. The next day, he held a press conference/rally at the LaSalle Parish Courthouse with family members of the Jena Six.

September 14, 2007: LaSalle Parish District Attorney J. Reed Walters issues his first public statement on the events of this past year, noting the noose incident did not constitute a federal or state offense, and the attack at JHS on December 4, 2006, was exactly that…and not a “school-yard fight” that has been repeatedly reported in the news media.

The Third Circuit Court of Appeals announced today they have overturned Mychal Bell´s conviction and have thrown it out. They ruled the matter should have been handled in juvenile court and sent it to that jurisdiction for prosecution. Walters said he would appeal the decision to the Louisiana Supreme Court.

September 20, 2007: Anywhere from 8-20,000 people from across the nation and world are expected to be in Jena for a large demonstration/rally in support of the “Jena Six.” ***

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RESPONDING TO THE CRISIS IN JENA, LOUISIANA

Above is another source with a timeline. It is critical of the local paper and officials, especially the prosecutor and his statements. This looks like a lefty source but there is additional background, especially on the prosecutor that I have seen in several articles that is credible.


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This should never have gotten this far. The students hanging the original nooses should have been expelled and that would have been it.
1 posted on 09/20/2007 9:55:53 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Too bad the Chronology is in the form of a graphic (jpg file).


2 posted on 09/20/2007 9:57:10 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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That wouldn’t have been it for other people.


4 posted on 09/20/2007 10:07:35 PM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

http://www.thejenatimes.net/home_page_graphics/home.html


5 posted on 09/20/2007 10:19:59 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Thanks for posting — I see now that it was all the media’s fault.


6 posted on 09/20/2007 10:21:11 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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Thanks,but that is the same thing as the link at the top.


7 posted on 09/20/2007 10:21:44 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: wastedyears
Without the nooses the other stuff would not have happened.

You can't have students screwing around like that.

8 posted on 09/20/2007 10:28:31 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: confederatetrappedinmidwest

Get out.


9 posted on 09/20/2007 10:29:45 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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“Or click here and Scroll DownLink”

I clicked THAT one first, lol


10 posted on 09/20/2007 10:30:12 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The more I’m reading about this, the more I think everyone is in the wrong. Kids who hung the nooses and made a ‘white only’ tree should have been kicked out of school. Kid who was taunting the others with racial slurs was an idiot. But, the six who beat up the kid who was taunting them with racial slurs are also wrong. On top of that, Jackson, Sharpton and their ilk are the worst of all for making this a media circus and using it to divide people even more.
11 posted on 09/20/2007 10:33:00 PM PDT by mnehrling (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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I agree, this is a total cluster that should never have happened. From what I have read, it isn’t illegal to hang a noose from a tree. From what I have read, the young man who was beat up went to a school event that evening. From what I have read, the young men who did the beating should never have been charged with attempted murder. It’s all pretty unnecessary..on both sides.

I just hate it when we get stuck in the 60’s

12 posted on 09/20/2007 10:35:00 PM PDT by berdie
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Kids like misbehaving. When you add an opportunity for shysters in the media to get a story and race pimps like Sharpton to get publicity you get a circus like this.

This has to be nipped in the bud.

13 posted on 09/20/2007 10:40:40 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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This should never have gotten this far. The students hanging the original nooses should have been expelled and that would have been it.

The 7 against one ambush and beating was an unprovoked attack. The whole rally smells of another round of "Free Mumia". When people like Sharpton show up, you can bet the media is in full swing to subvert the legal system with a media circus. It worked just fine for OJ too.

14 posted on 09/20/2007 10:46:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
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A little maturity can be called for on all sides, too. When I was growing up there were occasionally swastikas painted on the doors of the high school, which had a large proportion of Jewish students.

The Jewish community didn’t go ballistic, there were no marches, and no one accused every gentile in sight of being a closet nazi.

Instead, the paint was washed off and school continued.


15 posted on 09/20/2007 10:48:01 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: CondorFlight
In my neighborhood occasionally the blood was washed off and the school continued.
16 posted on 09/20/2007 10:52:00 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Bump to study later.


17 posted on 09/20/2007 10:57:09 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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Look, the nooses were an idiotic idea. I think the act was racial. For the sake of conversation, lets say it was. That was not a physical act. It could not have cost the life of an individual. Stupid? Hell yes. Fatal? Rediculous...

Four months later seven blacks jumped one white. Now, was that non-physical? The initial punch was from behind and knocked the kid unconcious. Essentially it was a rabbit punch. The kid never knew what hit him. He could have fallen flat on his nose and been killed. Instead he seems to have fallen in a manner where he wasn’t serously injured. Then the group of blacks proceeded to kick him while he was down and out. Some of them prevented people form coming to the aid of the kid being beaten.

Don’t tell me this wasn’t racially motivated. It was a racial act. It was an attempt to severely injure this kid. It’s up to a jury to decide what the full intent was.

The media that called the first act a racist act of the highest order, describes the second as ‘a fight’. A fight? That’s what they think a fight consist of? These people are lying their asses off.

One act is describe as serious. The other is described as just a fight. One act wasn’t physical, couldn’t have hurt anyone. The second was physical and could have very easily have killed the kid.

The white kids should have been suspended. They were. They returned to school and there is no record of them doing anything more wrong along those lines (at least not up to the point where the blacks attacked the white kid).

When those seven kids attacked one kid, then held off anyone trying to stop the beating, they seriously F’d up.

The penalty for an act of idiocy simply souldn’t be the same as that for an act that could have killed a kid. Thank heaven. I’m sure some people think otherwise. Well we don’t live in that nation thank God.

The Black kids crossed the line. I don’t see why some people think they are being mistreated. The attack was brutal.

You’ll have to pardon me for not being able to justify this brutal beating that was obviously premeditated and could have been fatal, with a stupid racial prank.

Will SOME Blacks EVER grow up and take responsibility for anything they do? I give it another three hundred years, IF we’re lucky.

The Jackson/Sharpton briggade is alive and well, leading another generation off a cliff.

The media did it’s best to turn this into a civil rights blockbuster. Well, they should be charged with incitement and whatever other charges might apply.


18 posted on 09/20/2007 11:58:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne
Sure the attack of the Black students on the white was a racial attack, but without the noose incident the entire chain of events would not have happened.

The original noose hanging white kids should have been expelled. The fact is that the first act is an incitement to riot. The young black population has been radicalized by their leaders to believe that it is appropriate to react violently when racially provoked. We have all seen them marching shouting "no justice, no peace". Is that right, no of course not, but it is the way it is. Sharpton et al. want power for themelves. They don't care a jot about those kids, plenty more where they came from.

19 posted on 09/21/2007 12:14:23 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The original noose hanging white kids should have been expelled.

They were suspended. While I disagree with the officials from a number of agencies that said this wasn't racial, it still wasn't physical. "Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me." NON-PHYSICAL.

The fact is that the first act is an incitement to riot.

Did they riot? No, four months later they singled out on white kid an beat the crap out of him.

All you are doing is trying to provide an excuse for what they did. There isn't one. Non-physical stupidity, is no justification for nearly killing a kid.

If someone calls you every fowl-mouthed name in the book but never touches you or your property, then you cold cock them in the back of the head knocking them unconscious and proceed to kick them for a period of time after they are down, see what excuses will get you other than additional time for not owning up to what you did and acting contrite.

20 posted on 09/21/2007 12:27:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne

You should have heard Re-Joyce on a Houston radio show today. She said many of the same things you’re saying. She was furious that the Race Baiters - Sharpton and Jackson - showed up to fan the flames. She said if the Race Baiters are so worried about blacks being victimized, maybe they should head over to Philly where black on black killings are out of control.

She said the Race Baiters are stirring all this dissent so that blacks will rally behind the Democrat party and vote the ‘party line’ in ‘08. And she warned blacks they’re falling for the “same old tired crap” the Race Baiters feed them every time an election is on the horizon. And they fall in line, pull the DEM lever, and get nothing for their efforts.

And, “White people are scared of offending blacks and are constantly being told to walk on eggshells or else they’ll pay....”

She also said if blacks keep pushing racism and hatred like they’re doing, whites are some day going to start pushing back “and it ain’t gonna be pretty!”

I love that woman. Flat love her.

(For the newbies who may not know Re-Joyce, she is black. Very black. And smarter than most - black OR white!)

And when she finished, the host (Chris Baker) said he should get her to substitute for him when he goes on vacation. She tells it like it is!


21 posted on 09/21/2007 12:30:09 AM PDT by Humidston (THOMPSON/WATTS - 2008)
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To: DoughtyOne
No, the suspension was not enough. That noose crap cannot be tolerated. The situation was simmering for months as is often the case.

The situation was made worse after the attack by the prosecutor bumping the charges from second degree battery to attempted second degree murder. Between the mere suspension of the original students AND the charge inflation there is no way the Black community with the vocal assistance of the media and their leaders are not going to go ballistic.

22 posted on 09/21/2007 12:42:05 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Humidston

The only push-back that I approve of is when rioters are shot. If they are destroying property in mass, take them out. I don’t care if it’s White Trash, Blacks, Hispanics or little green men. Black businesses generally suffer the most, as they get torched in the poorer areas around LA.

She is great. As the years go by, more and more black are going to go down her path, and away from the Jackson/Sharpton path.

She’s dead on target as far as I am concerned.

As for race baiters, the media down there and the folks we just talked about, should be put on notice. If this happens again, they’ll be prosecuted.

Thanks for the comments.


23 posted on 09/21/2007 12:51:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne
The media did it’s best to turn this into a civil rights blockbuster. Well, they should be charged with incitement and whatever other charges might apply.

They sure did and we have to ask ourselves why? Why do we continue to allow this crap? They did the very same thing in Durham yet here we are again.

24 posted on 09/21/2007 12:58:54 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Anti-Bubba182
No, the suspension was not enough. That noose crap cannot be tolerated.

A fitting punishment was meeted out.  The kids came back to school and comported themselves appropriately.

The situation was simmering for months as is often the case.

Read the timeline again.  The only simmering was the media, cooking the news to cause trouble.  On campus things were fairly under control.  Only an incident or two occured during the four months.

The situation was made worse after the attack by the prosecutor bumping the charges from second degree battery to attempted second degree murder.

What do you call it when seven young men attack one person, knock him unconcious and continue to kick him viciously while he us unconcious on the ground?  What would constitute attempted second degree murder if this didn't?  I would submit there is an obvious charge missing here, and that is conspiring to carry out a racial act of violence.  There's another, conspiring to deny a person of their civil rights.  Would you like me to go on?

Between the mere suspension of the original students AND the charge inflation there is no way the Black community with the vocal assistance of the media and their leaders are not going to go ballistic.

So anotherwords race baiting, falcifying the facts to incite a riot, mob rule and attempted murder don't matter, but damn it, if they hurt your feelings a good example killing isn't all that bad.  Right?

25 posted on 09/21/2007 1:02:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Altura Ct.

If we had a justice department in this nation worth it’s salt, we woudln’t be facing problems like this.

I guarantee you, if seven white kids attacked a black kid on a high school campus anywhere in this nation in this manner, the justice department would be down there in less than ten minutes. And if the local media printed articles that lied about what the black did to cause it, they’d be shut down, their writers and editors prosecuted.


26 posted on 09/21/2007 1:05:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne
"Read the timeline again. The only simmering was the media, cooking the news to cause trouble. On campus things were fairly under control. Only an incident or two occured during the four months."

The beating occurred on 12-4-06. On 11-30-06 The school was Torched. It was arson. You should reread timeline.

"What do you call it when seven young men attack one person, knock him unconcious and continue to kick him viciously while he us unconcious on the ground? What would constitute attempted second degree murder if this didn't? I would submit there is an obvious charge missing here, and that is conspiring to carry out a racial act of violence. There's another, conspiring to deny a person of their civil rights. Would you like me to go on?"

The charges filed by the prosecutor fail to hold up because they were excessive in the view of the appelate court and thrown out. He would have been better off not to get greedy. The youth attacked was well enough to attend senior class ring ceremony that night though he left early because of pain. I never said it was right that he was attacked.

"So anotherwords race baiting, falcifying the facts to incite a riot, mob rule and attempted murder don't matter, but damn it, if they hurt your feelings a good example killing isn't all that bad. Right?"

Take a flying leap.

27 posted on 09/21/2007 1:31:10 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“Sure the attack of the Black students on the white was a racial attack, but without the noose incident the entire chain of events would not have happened.”

No, it started Aug 30, 2006 at an assembly when one Black student joking asked if Black students were permitted to sit underneath the tree.....

The noose incident was investigated which included an external investigation including the FBI and reviewed by the US Attorney’s Office and it was deemed simply a joke.

If you are going to make a joke against whitie, you should be able to take a joke. Should have been end of story.


28 posted on 09/21/2007 2:05:08 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Read the timeline again. The only simmering was the media, cooking the news to cause trouble. On campus things were fairly under control. Only an incident or two occured during the four months."

The beating occurred on 12-4-06. On 11-30-06 The school was Torched. It was arson. You should reread timeline.

We were discussing racially motivated acts of violence.

I read the timeline, and not just the part that might have buttressed my case.  Any connection between the racil tensions at the school and the arson were ruled out.  You did see that right?  To quote in part, "...and officials do not think it is related to the noose incident."

"What do you call it when seven young men attack one person, knock him unconcious and continue to kick him viciously while he us unconcious on the ground? What would constitute attempted second degree murder if this didn't? I would submit there is an obvious charge missing here, and that is conspiring to carry out a racial act of violence. There's another, conspiring to deny a person of their civil rights. Would you like me to go on?"

The charges filed by the prosecutor fail to hold up because they were excessive in the view of the appelate court and thrown out. He would have been better off not to get greedy.

The youth attacked was well enough to attend senior class ring ceremony that night though he left early because of pain. I never said it was right that he was attacked.
<>The condition of the youth later in the day doesn't mitigate the actions of the attackers.  This was a vicious premeditated racially motivated attack.  Furthermore, the article makes it clear the victim had various injuries that caused severe pain.  Some of those injuries were deemed to be of a type that might be long lasting.

If seven young white men attacked a black kid, I'd be the first one to suggest they deserved to get the book thrown at them.  The interesting fact is, I wouldn't have to say a word.

The Justice Department would be on the case day one.

The perps would be changed with attemped murder, civil rights violations and conspiring to commit these acts.  They would be under arrest and incarcerated.

You act as if the DA, were trying to set some record, what did you call it, oh yes, "greedy".  I mentioned several additional charges he could have filed and you didn't bat an eye lash.  Yep, the DA didn't file as many charges as he could have, and would have if the perps were white the victim black.  I suppose you didn't acknowledge this, because it shoots the hell out of your, "He threw the book at them unfairly" theory.

As for the appelate court, if the perps were white, there isn't one chance out of one thousand the charges would have been reduced.  Instead they would have been augmented by civil rights and conspiracy counts.  A government civil rights team of attorneys would have been assigned to the case, and they would have done their damndest to put the white kids away for years.

"So anotherwords race baiting, falcifying the facts to incite a riot, mob rule and attempted murder don't matter, but damn it, if they hurt your feelings a good example killing isn't all that bad. Right?" Take a flying leap.

No need to get testy.  I don't happen to think my comments here are over the top.  They seem to be an accurate description of what's going on here IMO.  Tell me one point that is inaccurate.

29 posted on 09/21/2007 2:07:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The blacks did not have to sit under the tree.


30 posted on 09/21/2007 2:22:04 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Bump.


31 posted on 09/21/2007 2:24:10 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Without the cartoons, you wouldn’t have had the Muslim riots in Europe.

What say ye to that?


32 posted on 09/21/2007 2:24:10 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: DoughtyOne
"We were discussing racially motivated acts of violence."

What do think the arson was? The white kids have no motive. Unless the district burned it down for the insurance money It was racially motivated and all part of the noose provocation.

The local proscutor is greedy and incompetent. He has blown the case. Where did I say: "He threw the book at them unfairly" theory. The fact is the court threw out the case.

"So anotherwords race baiting, falcifying the facts to incite a riot, mob rule and attempted murder don't matter, but damn it, if they hurt your feelings a good example killing isn't all that bad. Right?"

Where is the example killing?

I don't happen to think my comments here are over the top. They seem to be an accurate description of what's going on here IMO. Tell me one point that is inaccurate.

Every bit of this is an over the top misrepresentation.

33 posted on 09/21/2007 2:34:42 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: CheyennePress

What does that have to do with this? The Cartoon are religious disrespect. Nooses are a racist threat well known in the south and not something to be done as a prank.


34 posted on 09/21/2007 2:37:23 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

It has everything to do with this. It’s just another group of people who garnered the media’s sympathy because they were offended. And really, the only reason they garder the sympathy after the fact is that 1) they’re a minority and 2) they behave violently.

I’m sorry, I don’t accept “I was offended” as an excuse for any kind of crime. EVER.

I don’t really care if you (using a generic “you”) were offended. You conscientiously chose to take offense to something. Then you acted upon it criminally. Thus you should be prosecutected in a criminal court, as should anyone else who behaved in a similar fashion.

Yes, it’s wrong to hang a noose. Yes, it can be inflammtory. But there’s nothing criminal about it. It shows a lack of respect, a lack of courtesy, and a lack of taste, yes.


35 posted on 09/21/2007 2:45:18 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: Anti-Bubba182

yES, BUT, WHAT WAS THE JOKE THE NOOSES MEANT?

wAS IT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE STATEMENTS OF BLACK STUDENTS SITTING UNDER THE TREE?

sorry, caplock

If so, and if it was meant to be a joke, that does not justify the violent reaction.

Also, how long was the time period between the rope incident and the beatings? Violence is not justified in these time lapses, regardless of what happened to the practical jokers.


36 posted on 09/21/2007 2:47:01 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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37 posted on 09/21/2007 2:55:38 AM PDT by csense
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Are you suggesting that the Jena6 get a pass because the nooses were hung on the tree? That somehow, it lessens the beating of the student?


38 posted on 09/21/2007 2:57:36 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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"If so, and if it was meant to be a joke, that does not justify the violent reaction."

No it is not Justified, but it was predictable. The beating was months after the noose incident but only a few days after the major arson at the school. The arson would elevate tensions again. I would not make too much of a delay where a race incident is involved. Grudges can last a long time.

When the FBI came in after the noose incident everyone should have begun to have a clue that the incident was not taken as a prank.

39 posted on 09/21/2007 2:59:35 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: carton253

Where do I say they should get a pass?


40 posted on 09/21/2007 3:05:14 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Seems Robert Bailey, Jr. was looking for a reason to start trouble, the noose incident he only heard of was reason enough.


41 posted on 09/21/2007 3:20:29 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

That is why I was asking... As I read your posts, it seems to me that is what you are saying. So, I asked to clarify your position.


42 posted on 09/21/2007 3:22:07 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: carton253
"As I read your posts, it seems to me that is what you are saying."

Where exactly

43 posted on 09/21/2007 3:25:56 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: azhenfud

Good point! Incidents like this give thugs a way to rationalize doing what they want to do anyway.


44 posted on 09/21/2007 3:28:58 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Never mind...


45 posted on 09/21/2007 3:29:16 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: azhenfud

IMHO, the national level attention should focus on teaching local population the proper response of perceived injustice is to raise it to the attention of legitimate authority.

The real issues then become:
When somebody taunted another, if it was unjust, did the person take it to legitimate authority to resolve?

When somebody hung nooses on a tree, did the offended party take the issue to the school and possibly local police to charge the criminal intent?

When a gang of people assaulted and caused battery on a single person, were they arrested, charged, and handled justly?

When Sharpton and Jackson step into the fray, did they first determine and request FBI involvement and was it even necessary? If not, maybe they should be charged for inciting riot.

Seems to me, that multiple liabilities exist and in the confusion, if nobody respects legitimate authority, then they are simply seeking to live in an illegitimate society, so who cares how miserable they have become?

Most people create their own misery.


46 posted on 09/21/2007 3:38:44 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I just read the timeline of events in the link. If I read it correctly, one of the kids involved in the beating, assaulted and robbed another person two days earlier, and, seemingly, tried to crash a private party the night before that. That sounds like trouble to me, with a capitol T.

That article was very illuminating because you won't believe the misinformed stories that are going around the internet....and tensions are rising.

47 posted on 09/21/2007 3:42:10 AM PDT by csense
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To: csense
"...That article was very illuminating because you won't believe the misinformed stories that are going around the internet....and tensions are rising."

I can believe it. The below is pretty typical. The link I posted above is the area paper. They could have an agenda of covering for the local area and the below and others an interest in stirring things up.

Tens of thousands march on Jena

"..Nooses raise tensions

The December beating was the culmination of racial taunts and confrontations involving Robert Bailey Jr., one of the a ccused teens, after black students sat under an oak tree in the school courtyard where for two decades white students traditionally gathered. A day later, the black students found nooses hanging from the tree. The white students who put them there were given only in-school suspensions by the schools superintendent, even though the high school's principal had recommended they be expelled.

Walters said he didn't charge the white students accused of hanging the nooses because he could find no state law under which they could be charged.

Bean said parents met in a Baptist church after the nooses incident. The next day, Bailey and several friends decided to stand under the tree in protest, Bean said.

In an emergency assembly called at the school, black students say Walters warned students he could "take away their lives with a stroke of my pen." Walters has denied making the comment.

Bean said sporadic skirmishes between black and white students sparked even more tension between the students who hung the nooses and the Jena Six, a group of close football players. Last November, an arsonist burned a wing of the school, heightening tensions even more. That case remains unsolved.

"It was like the whole town had been violated," Bean said of the scorched wing.

White students allegedly jumped Bailey and some friends at a local dance attended mostly by white students. The next day, Bean said a white man pulled a gun on Bailey, who wrestled the gun away and was charged with theft.

A few days later, a white student, Justin Barker, was allegedly beaten by six black classmates. Barker was knocked unconscious with his face badly swollen, although he was able to attend a school function that same night. Walters told reporters this week that the "serious threat to his existence has become a footnote." .."

48 posted on 09/21/2007 3:54:36 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Cvengr

After carefully reading the newspaper chronology, it appears there is a group of blacks which seek to always ignore legitimate authority from local to national level.

Now some discernment is required to see if any of it justifiable. Considering the radical black community lacks the judgment and resolve to respect legitimate authority other than what they perceive is right in their own eyes, while disrespecting all other persons, I suspect they are contriving a self-induced system of misery upon themselves and any reach of their power.

IMHO, the sooner they are obliterated, the better.


49 posted on 09/21/2007 3:59:40 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Good post bump!


50 posted on 09/21/2007 4:05:47 AM PDT by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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