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Everlasting light (new highly efficient light bulb on the drawing board)
economist ^ | 9/6/2007

Posted on 09/21/2007 5:55:06 AM PDT by Uncledave

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To: Uncledave

I wouldn’t mind this bulb if it really never does need changing, but I just hope it works better than the low water toilets.


21 posted on 09/21/2007 6:18:19 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Uncledave
Somethings missing from this article ... I can't ... why is it .... AH, I know!

How much for a 100 wattt bulb? Lessee, (1) microwave generator (with shielding), (5) feet of specialized microwave guide tubing, (1) shielded target, ... oh, $800.

But it saves energy!

22 posted on 09/21/2007 6:21:20 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Uncledave

This last spring, I had to change a bulb. So I took it out and went to Lowes to get another one.
The gal behind the counter was kinda cute. But she objected. I said “This is probably older than you, I bought my house in ‘91”.
She says “No way! I’m 23!”

It was a mercury vapor bulb that sat on top of a 17’ pole that I risked my life getting out. A lamp that had turned on and off faithfully, each and every morning and night, since at least 1991.

I’m not saying light bulbs can’t be improved. But that’s pretty freakin good. Somebody gonna put a bulb up in a pole that’s halfway to the stratosphere, it better burn for awhile, cause I ain’t gonna be changing it once a month!


23 posted on 09/21/2007 6:22:01 AM PDT by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: Red Badger
Oh great! Now we can cook our brains for light!.............

Well, OK, it might still need a little work.

I doubt it will be on the market for a while, yet. I am curious to see how they managed "A single microwave generator can be used to power several lamps."

24 posted on 09/21/2007 6:22:05 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Uncledave

The British company did not invent this technology. A Si Valley start-up company Luxim has been perfecting this technology for years and has products already


25 posted on 09/21/2007 6:22:48 AM PDT by Freep EE
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To: Uncledave
"If a cylindrical capsule containing a suitable gas is inserted into the hole, the atoms of the gas become ionised."

With our luck, scientists will find that phosgene gas works best.

Like they did with, "Hey, let's create deadly mercury vapor in the thinnest glass container possible and scatter them by the thousands throughout sealed office buildings!"

26 posted on 09/21/2007 6:27:03 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: reagan_fanatic
Don't those type of devices themselves use a lot of energy? I wonder if they are factoring in the energy that device uses when comparing the cose effectiveness of the lamp?

Evidently not necessarily. It's not like you're trying to locate a SU-27 at 150 miles...
For example, the microwave oven, quietly going about its business, is never given credit for its monumental savings in energy use compared to traditional means of heating and cooking foods.

On the really, really good side, I might finally see something I have been hoping for for years: the mug-sized microwave oven for re-heating coffee...

27 posted on 09/21/2007 6:27:13 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Uncledave
With lighting accounting for some 20% of electricity use worldwide, switching to a more efficient system could both save energy and reduce emissions of climate-changing greenhouse gases.

I believe the promoters of advanced, energy-saving technology would do well to disconnect the subject from the fraudulent hysteria surrounding Global WarmingTM and Climate ChangeTM. Real, useful science shouldn't condescend to lending credence to such unscientific jihads.

28 posted on 09/21/2007 6:29:18 AM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: Moonman62
"radiating 95% of the energy it consumes as heat rather than light."

Whoa! That's more efficient than my furnace.

That's it. The furnace goes and I'm installing a 40,000 watt light bulb in the basement.

29 posted on 09/21/2007 6:30:33 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Moonman62
Which means it's 100% efficient if the heat is on.

Does this also mean the incandescents are saving me money on my cold Ohio winter heating bills? Maybe we can find a way to use microwaves to heat homes to save on heating bills? That would be kinda strange. Open your front door, the light goes on. Ring the doorbell, and everything starts spinning around in circles.

Seriously, this is cool stuff. Pretty easy to joke about, but it sounds great and I hope they find success.
30 posted on 09/21/2007 6:31:56 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Publius6961
I am curious to see how they managed "A single microwave generator can be used to power several lamps."

I think it means that you transmit the microwaves from a base station, and each lamp has an antenna that picks up the waves and converts them to DC.

According to this wiki entry, "Microwave power transmission (MPT) is the use of microwaves to transmit power through outer space or the atmosphere without the need for wires. It is a sub-type of the more general Wireless energy transfer methods, and is the most interesting because microwave devices offer the highest efficiency of conversion between DC-electicity and microwave radiative power."

It's been demonstrated for many applications.

31 posted on 09/21/2007 6:33:24 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Freep EE
The British company did not invent this technology. A Si Valley start-up company Luxim has been perfecting this technology for years and has products already

Actually, they did. Things have come full circle from when the prototypes were delivered personally to the US in 1942.

"Pity Sir Henry Watson, Watt, with achievements too numerous to mention,
A victim of his own invention!"

When he received a post war speeding ticket based on... you guessed it...

32 posted on 09/21/2007 6:35:19 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: alicewonders
In the antique lamp catalogs I've looked at, they sell the Victorian light bulbs using a carbon filament rather than tungsten.

Do you see a difference?

33 posted on 09/21/2007 6:35:35 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: r9etb
Original radar research led to the cooking application when chocolate melted in a worker's pocket.

NOT the recomended way to distribute microwaves for use around living things!

34 posted on 09/21/2007 6:38:17 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
"It would have been 'cost' had I actually checked the spelling before posting"

Ah. Here I thought it was a technical microwave thing -- like "milli-angstrom radiation in the h-band approaching a cose efficiency of 19%".

You should have faked it and said that's what you meant.

35 posted on 09/21/2007 6:40:06 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Red Badger
"Oh great! Now we can cook our brains for light!............."

That's the secret behind how it works -- you turn it on, it fries your optic nerve, and you think the room got brighter.

36 posted on 09/21/2007 6:43:37 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Publius6961
NOT the recomended way to distribute microwaves for use around living things!

LOL! No, not if you're blasting 10kW of microwaves around the area.

But there are a lot of microwave transmissions around you -- comm links, and such. They can be made very directional, too. If the power density were similar to, say, that of a cell phone, you probably wouldn't have much concern.

The article doesn't say how much power one of these bulbs uses, so it's difficult to say how much microwave power you'd be beaming about.

37 posted on 09/21/2007 6:45:47 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: CPOSharky

Could be a long time.. I have had microwave ovens that lasted many years. They don’t tell you the microwave oven thing has a filament in it to make it work.


38 posted on 09/21/2007 6:46:05 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Not going to be $1.19, is it?


39 posted on 09/21/2007 6:50:50 AM PDT by ryan71 (I refuse to label anything I post, "sarcasm".)
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To: robertpaulsen
That's the secret behind how it works -- you turn it on, it fries your optic nerve, and you think the room got brighter.

I had to respond to your post to tell you how absolutely clever and perfectly funny it was. It deserves more than a simple LOL or ROFLMAO type response. It deserves more than an "I spit my coffee on my keyboard" response. Congratulations, you have made my day a happier one (I'll avoid the stupid pun by not saying you made my day "brighter").
40 posted on 09/21/2007 6:53:37 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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