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The Truth about Democrats - And Their Greater Common Good
Free Republic | September 21, 2007 | JB Williams

Posted on 09/21/2007 12:14:34 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

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This is a re-release of a column that deserves much more attention among all American voters.
1 posted on 09/21/2007 12:14:37 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
The core of the whole article, and, the core of the founding principals:

Only a morally sound society is suited well for self-governance. The founders knew and said it many times. If we want to retain dominion over our own lives, we must govern ourselves in a morally sound fashion. Laws are written to govern those who will not govern themselves. The less we govern ourselves through moral judgments, the more necessary laws become. The more laws we have, the less freedom we have.

2 posted on 09/21/2007 12:17:34 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)

We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826), letter to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)


3 posted on 09/21/2007 12:19:32 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I find nothing there to disagree with. The people who need to read and understand it will never see it. Thanks for posting it.


4 posted on 09/21/2007 12:21:17 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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No liberal can pass this fundamental test of what it is to be American today!


5 posted on 09/21/2007 12:22:59 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I thought Jefferson was a liberal??? He sounds like a conservative capitalist pig here??? LOL


6 posted on 09/21/2007 12:24:02 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Graybeard58

Welcome... Sad but true.


7 posted on 09/21/2007 12:24:43 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


8 posted on 09/21/2007 12:31:58 PM PDT by BubbaBasher (WWW.TWFRED08.COM)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson
9 posted on 09/21/2007 12:36:19 PM PDT by BubbaBasher (WWW.TWFRED08.COM)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

He WAS a liberal. Not a “liberal” cum socialist/communist/progressive/etc.

The modern “liberal” has sullied the term which used to mean maximal individual liberty and individual rights (including property rights and self defense).


10 posted on 09/21/2007 12:38:22 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

a large part of the “american electorate” likes hearing war talk from the democrats. they love the class warfare rhetoric and cheer every time the socialist dingbats at the dnc talk about the “two americas”.

“life, libery and the pursuit of happiness? all they need is the communist manifesto.


11 posted on 09/21/2007 12:43:10 PM PDT by ripley
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson

Can I get banned by posting Jefferson quotes?

12 posted on 09/21/2007 12:49:33 PM PDT by BubbaBasher (WWW.TWFRED08.COM)
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Nae....

We like Jefferson liberals, just not today’s secular socialist progressives masquerading as liberals.

13 posted on 09/21/2007 1:26:23 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

bookmark for later


14 posted on 09/21/2007 1:28:51 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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Throughout world history, people seeking dominion over other people have always claimed that their desire for ultimate power served some greater common good.

Yeah.
And it has a precise name.

Fascism

It is impossible to grasp the true concept of Fascism without returning to an age of clarity and facts vs opinion and editorializing; before personal definitions, euphemisms, the puerile, self-serving age of "depends of what the definition of "is", is.
According to the Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Collier-Macmillan, Volumes 3-4, 1967, pp182-183 et seq.:

...whereas Liberalism, socialism, democracy, and the other progressive movements of the nineteenth century had asserted the rights of man, the selfish claims of the individual, Fascism sought, instead, to uphold the moral integrity and higher collective purpose of the nation. And whereas liberalism saw the state simply as an institution created to protect men's rights, fascim looked on the state as an organic entity which embodied in itself all the noblest spititual reality of the people as a whole. Fascism opposed the laissez-faire economics of the capitalism and the bourgeois ethos which went with it. But fascism equally opposed socialism, which preached class war and trade unionism and thus served only to divide the nation. Fascism could tolerate no organized sectional groups which stood outside the state, for such groups pressed the supposed interests of some against the true interests of all...
... fascism set up corporations which were designed to integrate the interests of particular trades, industries, professions and the like into the wider harmony of the state.

15 posted on 09/21/2007 1:42:10 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Excellent post!


16 posted on 09/21/2007 1:43:33 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: MrB
The core of the whole article, and, the core of the founding principals:...

Absolutely, there was a time not long ago, when the majority of folks did the Right thing for the Right reasons. They required no laws to make them take care of themselves and their families.

Do we actually need laws controlling the length and color of our lawns?

As more and more laws restricting our Freedom are jammed down the throats of Americans, the more violent outbursts will occur.

17 posted on 09/21/2007 1:52:56 PM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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Every time I hear a liberal say the words, “Common Good,”
I picture two things in my mind.....

First, a swastika, and second, a hammer and sickle.


18 posted on 09/21/2007 2:05:18 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My number one goal in life is to leave a bigger carbon footprint than Al Gore.)
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To: Frank_2001

Thank you!


19 posted on 09/21/2007 2:12:44 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
"He who would do good to another must do it in Minute Particulars. General Good is the plea of the scoundrel, hypocrite, and flatterer..."
---William Blake
20 posted on 09/21/2007 2:19:46 PM PDT by dorothy ( “The firm basis of government is justice, not pity.” —Woodrow Wilson)
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