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Alan Johnson (UK) [proposes] to make everyone organ donors
Telegraph ^ | 21 September 2006 | Rebecca Smith

Posted on 09/21/2007 10:11:47 PM PDT by Lorianne

Everyone will automatically have their organs taken for transplant unless they have registered their objections under plans being considered by the Government, it will be announced today.

Have your say: Should organ donations be compulsory? Analysis: Changing organ donation rules

Alan Johnson: 'I want to see donation rates start to rise '

The Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, has ordered a team to explore the issue to reduce the number of people who die each year while waiting for an organ.

A recent consultation found little public support for automatic donations. Opponents say giving an organ should be altruistic, not coercive.

The Chief Medical Officer, Sir Liam Donaldson, called for a change in the law in July to move to "presumed consent" where the individual is automatically registered as a donor unless they opt out.

Sir Liam's counterpart in Scotland, Dr Harry Burns, rejected the idea but similar schemes work well in some other European countries.

The inquiry team will examine the moral and medical issues, including whether family members have the right to veto the wishes of the deceased, as is often the case now.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 09/21/2007 10:11:48 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Is he going to wait until we die?


2 posted on 09/21/2007 10:13:00 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Lorianne

Monty Python’s “Live Organ Transplants”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdXVQymTImo


3 posted on 09/21/2007 10:16:27 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: hsalaw

I refuse to be a donor because I saw the movie Coma and it makes one wonder if you are still alive but in a Coma, or there have been cases where people who were delcared dead was not etc.

You never who’s hands you fall into it might be one who want to rob you of your organs and you were not dead!


4 posted on 09/21/2007 10:16:57 PM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing!)
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To: hsalaw

I wouldn’t bet my life on it!


5 posted on 09/21/2007 10:30:57 PM PDT by Carsigliere
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To: Lorianne
The solution is simple.

Those who refuse to become an organ donor will be ineligible to receive a donated organ.

6 posted on 09/21/2007 10:33:34 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Lorianne
As someone who had to do things to help a family member out, by going through the black market, I have mixed feelings.

That said, I believe in free markets, and keeping the government out of this, but at the same time, I like the Israel system of consent, so I will admit, I am open minded about this.

Either way, anything is better then what we have now.

7 posted on 09/21/2007 10:34:22 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: trumandogz
Those who refuse to become an organ donor will be ineligible to receive a donated organ.

I believe that is the Israeli system.

If I am wrong, then I am sorry.

I am not knocking it, I think its a good system, I just think it can be perfected and added to.

8 posted on 09/21/2007 10:36:06 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Lorianne

Imagine your life hangs by a thread. Imagine your body hangs by a wire. Imagine you're not imagining.


A young woman doctor discovers something sinister going on in her hospital. Relatively healthy patients are having 'complications' during simple operations and ending up in coma's. The patients are then shipped off to an institute that looks after them. The young doctor suspects there is more to this than meets the eye.


9 posted on 09/21/2007 10:37:38 PM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing!)
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To: Sonny M

Those that have an ethical or religions objection to donating organs must also have a ethical or religious objection to receiving organs.


10 posted on 09/21/2007 10:39:01 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
Those that have an ethical or religions objection to donating organs must also have a ethical or religious objection to receiving organs.

Basic economics.

Supply and demand.

Also, indifference (hence why some countries have implied concent unless you opt-out).

Thats why this isn't so cut and dry, and I am someone who has had to "go to the other side" to get things done.

11 posted on 09/21/2007 10:46:24 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: LibFreeOrDie

LOL!!!!

We’re on the same wavelength. Hillarious skit!


12 posted on 09/21/2007 10:59:25 PM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: Lorianne; blackie; martin_fierro; JoeSixPack1
Alan Johnson proposes to make everyone organ donors

At the risk of dredgin up an old and very worn out cliche....

He's gonna make everyone ride murdersikkles!

13 posted on 09/21/2007 10:59:40 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: Lorianne

You gotta love compulsory delivery of corpses to the state for organ removal being proposed in a western country, (not a negative utopia noval). Will a body be provided for the funeral?


14 posted on 09/21/2007 11:15:47 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Lorianne
"Somebody is putting people into comas."


15 posted on 09/21/2007 11:21:00 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: trumandogz
>> The solution is simple.

Those who refuse to become an organ donor will be ineligible to receive a donated organ. <<

Not a simple solution, but a simple-minded one, to be sure.

I believe I am entitled to receive a donated organ, but I have ordered that no tissue from my body ever be donated to any living person. The same for my eldest son.

Why? We have both had hepatitis. Both of us have been healthy for years, but our organs would infect any poor soul who received them. Should we die because we are ineligible to donate? In this world there are few truly simple answers.

16 posted on 09/22/2007 12:12:15 AM PDT by Fiona MacKnight
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To: trumandogz; Sonny M
Those who refuse to become an organ donor will be ineligible to receive a donated organ.

To put my objection at the most simple:

The state would then own my very body. If I need a transplant, then I have to buy it at the cost of giving up ownership of my own body.

17 posted on 09/22/2007 12:53:21 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: uglybiker; martin_fierro

Nonheart-beating donation in the neurologically devastated patient (Homicidecycle are best suited for this application)

Also depends on the preservatives (Grape is my favorite)

A patented process has been invented (No food saver vacuum bag needed!)

“The present invention relates to a composition for organ preservation, comprising an inulin type fructan as an active ingredient. The composition for organ preservation can suppress the hypofunction of an organ and damage to a histological structure and can improve the state of preservation of the organ in the course of organ transplantation and the like.”

duh.... http://www.freepatentsonline.com

(Frozen beef has more nutrients, but aged beef tastes better!)


18 posted on 09/22/2007 1:43:18 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Fiona MacKnight
Good on.

I, however don't give a good G** ***N what happens to my body after my SPIRIT leaves it.

I AM a organ donor!

I do agree however, I should be able to receive organs from someone who is undeniably healthy but, brain dead.

It doesn't take much time or research these days to discover diseases by simple blood work.

Please forgive my grammatical errors. I was educated in publik skuul.!?

19 posted on 09/22/2007 1:59:35 AM PDT by SantosLHalper (Liberals - The first to cry for tolerance. The first to shut you up when you don't agree with them.)
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To: Lorianne
Hmmmm... government enforced compulsive organ donation. What's next? I wonder how many surgical "problems" will arise within government health care cases when compatible donors land on the operating table?

Frightening to say the least.

20 posted on 09/22/2007 6:04:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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