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China artillery force seeks to strike aircraft carriers
United Press International-Asia ^ | Sep 21,2007 | ANDREI CHANG

Posted on 09/22/2007 10:36:44 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 09/22/2007 10:36:50 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

You can also hunt deer with a ball peen hammer if they’ll stand still long enough.


2 posted on 09/22/2007 10:39:02 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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500-kilogram warhead would have a lethal radius of 388 millimeters

Wow, comparable to a nuke. ;-)

3 posted on 09/22/2007 10:42:28 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The author writes well but has a problem with numbers


4 posted on 09/22/2007 10:43:10 AM PDT by fso301
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Too bad you commies don't have an answer for these weapons.

And this:

Say goodbye to your missile batteries. The path gets cleared and the Nimitz class carriers get closer to finish you off.

5 posted on 09/22/2007 10:49:09 AM PDT by Red Steel
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All of the U.S. Navy's nuclear-powered aircraft carriers have a maximum speed of 32 knots. In other words, they can move 30.866 meters each minute and 216.06 meters within seven minutes.

Uhh, correction: maximum PUBLISHED speed of 32 knots...;)

6 posted on 09/22/2007 10:52:14 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Tagline: Kinda like a chorus line but without the legs)
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Even if the Chinese missiles could not accurately hit the aircraft carriers, shooting them in their direction would allow the Chinese military forces to impose "coercive isolation" on the U.S. aircraft carrier battle groups, keeping them out of the Taiwan Strait combat theater.

Yeah suuure... Expect your limited detection capabilities to get blinded. Lots of sea out there to hide in even for big dick carriers.

7 posted on 09/22/2007 10:56:18 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: glorgau
...388 millimeters...

About fifteen inches? Doesn't seem very large.

8 posted on 09/22/2007 10:56:59 AM PDT by FreePaul
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Part of the problem is that the submunitions will include pyrotechnic rounds which will cause fire, smoke, and confusion.

Here’s what can happen when one of our own rockets misfires, let alone an enemy engagement:

http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2003/02/images_deck_landings/u124794.jpg


9 posted on 09/22/2007 10:59:16 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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But wait. Isn’t China our friend?


10 posted on 09/22/2007 11:02:42 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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I had to double check the article too...


11 posted on 09/22/2007 11:04:10 AM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Methinks that if the Chinese are going to attack American targets a thousand miles from the Taiwan Straits, we could hit Chinese targets that are equally far from the Taiwan Straits.


12 posted on 09/22/2007 11:06:31 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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Wow--that guy REALLY has an issue with numbers. Any former OOD's here, kids? What's the 3 minute rule?

Speed in knots X 100 = yards covered in 3 minutes.

IOW, in 3 minutes they'd cover 3200 yards (nearly 2 miles), and in 7 minutes you'd literally need a nuke to do serious damage to an aircraft carrier from a range of 6-7 miles.
13 posted on 09/22/2007 11:09:31 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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Uhh, correction: maximum PUBLISHED speed of 32 knots...;)

Exactly. I wish I could find that picture of the Nimitz kicking out a rooster tail about 60 feet high and 300 feet long.

14 posted on 09/22/2007 11:10:58 AM PDT by seowulf
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“U.S. Navy’s nuclear-powered aircraft carriers have a maximum speed of 32 knots. In other words, they can move 30.866 meters each minute and 216.06 meters within seven minutes.”

Good Deal! Lets hope that the Chinese, like the author, continue to believe that our subs at flank speed could only move the equivalent of about 20 football fields in an hour.

60 min / 7 min = 8.5 8.5 x 216.06 m = 1836.51 m / hr
100 yrd * 36 = 3600 inches / 39 inches = 92.3 m
1836.51 m / 92.3 m = 19.897 football fields per hour!
2000 yards per hour = about 1.5 mph!


15 posted on 09/22/2007 11:17:26 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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Not many people realize that an aircraft carrier has more than enough speed to waterski behind! But if you fall down, the turning radius to come pick you up is pretty darn big...


16 posted on 09/22/2007 11:55:07 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Tagline: Kinda like a chorus line but without the legs)
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Quite correct sir...been on a carrier that exceeded recomendations...


17 posted on 09/22/2007 12:16:38 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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All of the U.S. Navy's nuclear-powered aircraft carriers have a maximum speed of 32 knots. In other words, they can move 30.866 meters each minute and 216.06 meters within seven minutes.

Say what?

OK, look, I am going to do this in grade school arithmetic.

A "knot" - a nautical mile - is 1,852 meters, or 6,076 feet. 32 times that is 59,264 meters, or 194,432 feet.

That's 59.264 kilometers, or 32 nautical miles, in an hour.

Divide this by the number of minutes in an hour, and you get 987.7 meters per minute, or 3240.5 feet per minute.

In seven minutes, the carrier will have moved 6,914 meters, or 22,683.5 feet - 3.733 nautical miles, which for us infantry types works out to be 4.296 landlubber miles.

And if anyone has bothered to read any of the literature in the last 20 years, it is a matter of record that a carrier in a hurry can crank out something over 40 knots - can, in fact, outrun her escorts.

Last but not least, the US Navy has this nasty tendency to shoot back - and now has a functioning ABM capability - the Standard 3 with a 'smart rock' inertial impact warhead - which in tests has outperformed the Air Force's ABM interceptors.

18 posted on 09/22/2007 2:08:03 PM PDT by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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The author...has a problem with numbers

That's an understatement.

19 posted on 09/22/2007 3:43:14 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: Fatuncle

Interesting little factoid...

The typical maximum speed in knots of a full displacement hull is approximately 1.34 times the square root of the length of the hull at the waterline, in feet.

If you’re 1000 feet long (like a carrier), then you can do about 1.34 times 31.6, or around 42 knots at full displacement. This is taught to just about any rookie hull draftsman, and is known world-wide. Carriers should be expected to do at least this fast (at least, US carriers, given than every other country has considerably shorter carriers).

You can go faster, but power requirements increase exponentially. Of course, with your own nuclear power plants on board, power isn’t really the issue - it’s the torque rating of the prop shafts and the props themselves! But you can typically add another 25% or so on top of your displacement limit, if you really push it.


20 posted on 09/22/2007 5:55:22 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Tagline: Kinda like a chorus line but without the legs)
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