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Daily Kos: General Petraeus Wore Fraudulent Medal
Via OrbusMax.com - Little Green Footballs ^ | 9/21/07

Posted on 09/22/2007 11:31:06 AM PDT by llevrok

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To: llevrok

He had to know his fruit salad would go under a microscope. I guarantee

A.) He has valid orders for every ribbon or
B.) he’s a total fool.

I’m betting on A.


141 posted on 09/22/2007 3:38:20 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
exactly so.

i too am an "old soldier" (31D35, USA, retired.) & my GUESS is that the "daily kos IDIOTS" are LYING again.

it is the NATURE of DIMocRAT LEFTISTS to LIE, just as it is the NATURE of a venomous SERPENT to SLITHER.

free dixie,sw

142 posted on 09/22/2007 4:05:55 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy; All
exactly so.

i too am an "old soldier" (31D35, USA, retired.) & my GUESS is that the "daily kos IDIOTS" are LYING again.

it is the NATURE of DIMocRAT LEFTISTS to LIE, just as it is the NATURE of a venomous SERPENT to SLITHER.

free dixie,sw

143 posted on 09/22/2007 4:06:18 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; All
THANK YOU!!!!

free dixie,sw

144 posted on 09/22/2007 4:14:02 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: kabar; All
YEP. that's why i "just knew" he was a FRAUD.

REAL heroes/heroines hardly EVER "mention", much less BRAG about their medals.

when i was one of the students at the USAIS (popularly known as: the benning school for boys), one of our "distinguished speakers" was MAJ Roger Donolon (MOH, RVN), who said, "What i did was no big deal. at least a THOUSAND GIs did more than me." (emphasis: MINE)

also, i was (until his untimely passing) a close friend of Joseph O. Berry, late member-in-good-standing of Merrill's Marauders.

Joe NEVER even talked about hr war, except to tell us about the FUNNY things that happened to him. (for example the day that he sat down on a KRAIT. Joe said, "didn't know i could jump THAT high!!!")

free dixie,sw

145 posted on 09/22/2007 4:32:14 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: mazda77

It is not possible since the award was only created in 2005. It is probably deserved, but I do feel entitled to wonder whether it is or not given that I know several junior soldiers who have had the award denied due to minor reasons.


146 posted on 09/22/2007 4:36:52 PM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: magellan
magellan said: "Engaged in action does not seem to require being under fire."

I believe that the issue is whether the Bronze Star awarded includes the "V" for valor distinction. One of the men I served with years ago was awarded the Bronze Star for meritorious service. There was not act of valor involving enemy action, though the service was in a combat area.

147 posted on 09/22/2007 4:39:50 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

It is impossible for him to have earned it before he became a General officer as it was only created in 2005. Others have clarified the regulation regarding this, but I am feel compelled to call it into question since I know many other soldiers whose CAB was denied due to trivial reasons.


148 posted on 09/22/2007 4:40:06 PM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: llevrok

And just how would any of them know?


149 posted on 09/22/2007 4:46:26 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: kabar
I suspect that Patraeus won his Bronze star with a "V" during the Gulf War.

Kos is saying he received it with the 101st in 2003-2004. If he has received the V device for a mortar round that struck near him, then it's a slap in the face to all of those who have been through lots more and have shown a lot more valor.

150 posted on 09/22/2007 4:47:35 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: airedale

The “...personally present and actively engaging or being engaged by the enemy, and performing satisfactorily in accordance with the prescribed rules of engagement” would seem to me to require that the person being awarded to have been under fire and engaging the enemy. Something generals don’t often do.


151 posted on 09/22/2007 4:47:48 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Mountain Troll; Liberty Valance

We got issued our Good Conduct Medals at Oakland at DEROS and ETS. They gave us some french fries too. They were out of steak. We were two year guys.

Long ago... far away.


152 posted on 09/22/2007 4:53:30 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: All
the 6th word in the last sentence of my last post should be "his", rather than "hr".

btw, i HAVE to tell you HOW Joe said that he was recruited into the Marauders.

Joe said:

"i was sitting under a tree in the pouring rain on this little-@ss, no place, island trying to eat my "ks" before the rain filled up my mess-kit & washed the slop away.

this fellow tapped me on the shoulder & said, "we are eating BIG STEAKS at our camp."

i asked him WHO i had to kill to get one of them steaks.

he said, "a whole bunch of Japs."

i said,"i can do that"

. LOTS of GIs became Marauders in JUST that way."

btw, Joe said that the STEAKS were REALLY GOOD, too.

free dixie,sw

153 posted on 09/22/2007 4:55:41 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: 91B
Some of the guys I drill with were wondering about his CAB (Combat Action Badge) as combat badges are not generally awarded to General officers.

So, you and the guys you drill with think he was always a general? You think he might have earned it before he got his first star? WTF.

154 posted on 09/22/2007 4:56:47 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
So, you and the guys you drill with think he was always a general? You think he might have earned it before he got his first star? WTF.

The CAB has only been awarded for the last 2 or 3 years. Long after Petraeus made general.

155 posted on 09/22/2007 4:58:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Michael Barnes

short for Kozo the clown.


156 posted on 09/22/2007 4:59:10 PM PDT by donnab
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

bump


157 posted on 09/22/2007 5:00:27 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Not possible. Tbe award was not created until 2005.


158 posted on 09/22/2007 5:00:35 PM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: 91B

The award is retro to 2001 and it is awarded to “any soldier”, which would include generals I imagine.

http://www.army.mil/symbols/combatbadges/Action.html

“In 2003, Petraeus, then a major general, commanded the 101st Airborne Division during V Corps’s drive to Baghdad. In a campaign chronicled in detail by Rick Atkinson of the Washington Post’s book In the Company of Soldiers, Petraeus led his division through the battles of Karbala, Hilla, and Najaf (where he came under fire during an ambush by Iraqi paramilitary forces).”

From the Wikipedia link someone had posted in this thread.


159 posted on 09/22/2007 5:16:26 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: 91B

As commander of the 101st Airborne, Petraeus saw combat for the first time during the division’s drive up the Euphrates Valley, with sharp firefights in Najaf, Karbala and Hilla. But it was during the division’s subsequent occupation of Mosul and northern Iraq that he won widespread acclaim by resurrecting the local economy, restoring services and preserving order with strategic force, which included killing Saddam Hussein’s two sons. Posters in the division bivouacs read: “What have you done to win Iraqi hearts and minds today?”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/06/AR2007010601185_pf.html


160 posted on 09/22/2007 5:21:37 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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