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A Rather Controversial Ending (Dan Rather blaming the conspiratorial Right?)
Newsweek via MSNBC ^ | September 21, 2007 | By Johnnie L. Roberts

Posted on 09/23/2007 2:05:50 PM PDT by LouAvul

Edited on 09/23/2007 5:26:43 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Dan Rather

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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Personally, I think television news is overrated. I find all the news I need on FR.
1 posted on 09/23/2007 2:05:51 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

Rule #1-Don’t use fake documents as a source for news.


2 posted on 09/23/2007 2:07:24 PM PDT by SShultz460
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To: LouAvul

...and given enough time, I believe Dan can come up with a docuemt to prove it. It won’t be real, but it will prove what he says is true. /s


3 posted on 09/23/2007 2:07:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: LouAvul

“Don’t fact check me, bro.” -Dan Rather

(Courage)


4 posted on 09/23/2007 2:13:01 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: LouAvul

I put this on another post today:

Dan Rather is mentioned several times in B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley’s “STOLEN VALOR—How the Vietnam Generation was Robbed of its Heroes and History.” Rather helped shape the popular image of the Vietnam veteran as psychotic misfit. He did a “documentary” in 1987, “The Wall Within,” which was later factually discredited. I don’t doubt that Michael Moore as a youth was inspired by 60 Minutes, which has always been 10 percent news and 90 percent entertainment.

Anyway, I quote verbatim from page 107 of Stolen Valor:

“Rather certainly has experience with the military. During the Korean War, when men could be drafted out of college, Dan Irvin Rather joined the Army Reserves while attending Sam Houston University in Huntsville, Texas, thus avoiding the possibility of being drafted. On graduating in 1954, well after the Korean War was over and the killing had ended, Rather quit the reserves and enlisted in the Marine Corps. (This is the same national broadcaster, who night after night during the 1988 presidential campaign, hammered Republican vice presidential candidate Dan Quayle for avoiding Vietnam by joining the National Guard.) Although the press often refers to Rather as an ‘ex-Marine,’ he did not finish Marine recruit training. He joined the Marines on January 22, 1954, but was discharged less than four months later, on May 11, for being medically unfit. (As a boy, Rather had suffered from rheumatic fever.)”

There has never been anything wrong with serving in the reserves—an essential part of the military and the oldest. What has been dishonorable is the way Rather, the news media and later, John Kerry, denigrated reserve service for political effect. By doing this during the 2004 election they insulted thousands of reservists who were serving in Iraq.

Kerry got a six-month early discharge from the Navy. When you add up Kerry’s active duty time and compare it to Bush’s active duty time—OCS, flight training, summer activation—Kerry didn’t do much more time than Bush.


5 posted on 09/23/2007 2:15:24 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: LouAvul

Whacko. Bring popcorn.


6 posted on 09/23/2007 2:17:44 PM PDT by hsalaw
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Rather, 75, alleges that CBS and his former bosses “coerced” him into apologizing for a controversial story in which his role was little more than that of a narrator.

Pretty sums up his entire, worthless career ...

Courage ..

7 posted on 09/23/2007 2:18:27 PM PDT by tx_eggman (ManBearPig '08)
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As bizarre as the lawsuit is, CBS will settle big-time for (my guess) $20 million.

Why?

The last thing on earth the democrat party and CBS wants is for the discovery process of this litigation to open up to the light of day how CBS creates the news. All just around the time of the 2008 presidential election. $20 million is a bargain to shut Rather up.


8 posted on 09/23/2007 2:19:49 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: LouAvul
a network news division assembling a story lie that could help unseat an incumbent president at the polls.

Whole ball of wax.

9 posted on 09/23/2007 2:21:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: SShultz460
Rule #1-Don’t use fake documents as a source for news.

I've said this a thousand times, and I'll say it again:

The ONLY asset that a news organization has is its credibility ... once credibility is lost, it has NO assets anymore.

10 posted on 09/23/2007 2:26:08 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight (Sept 11 2001 ...... NEVER forget !)
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>>>Dan Rather continues to stand by the story, and in subsequent interviews has articulated that he believes that the documents have never conclusively been proven to be forgeries — and that even if the documents are false, that the underlying story is true.<<<

Remember these lines? The truth as I want it to be. Deep down inside, these guys wanted to burn Bush badly. And they let that hate be their own undoing.

Or the emails from journalist Michael Smith to Mary Mapes:

“What if there was a person who might have some information that could possibly change the momentum of an election but we needed to get an ASAP book deal to help get us the information?” Mapes replied, “that looks good, hypothetically speaking of course.”

So nice to see they’re interested in just the facts, ma’am.


11 posted on 09/23/2007 2:30:26 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: FormerACLUmember

Still, cbs will have to answer w/i 30 days ( is this state or federal court?). It will be fun to read what its position is. My guess is that, to show good cause for its actions, cbs will have to say the story was “flawed”.


12 posted on 09/23/2007 2:31:23 PM PDT by uscabjd ( a)
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Anybody else remember the "theory" floated by some dem operatives that it was actually Karl Rove who created the false documents, and "planted them."

Delusional!

Mark

13 posted on 09/23/2007 2:36:14 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: uscabjd; CheyennePress
The Dan Rather/George Costanza Theory of Truth: "It isn't a lie, if you make yourself BELIEVE its true!"


14 posted on 09/23/2007 2:36:16 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight
As I remember the state of the election cycle when the “news” broke, Bush was surging in the polls, Kerry was sagging over his BS heroism in ‘nam. Something had to be done.

It is my belief that Rather/Mape’s efforts were not mistakes but actually nothing more than a pure fabricated effort to take out a sitting President. In the 1970’s they would have gotten away with it. It is chilling that a news organization, respected by too many, would use their reputation to decide that the President needed to be taken out, and would do what it took to achieve their goal.

15 posted on 09/23/2007 2:38:42 PM PDT by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: LouAvul

16 posted on 09/23/2007 2:38:50 PM PDT by Shots
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To: LouAvul

Dan Rather had been sitting in the “ejection seat” for years with his left-wing bias. Maybe once he gets over his bitterness he and Larry King can market a line of “designer suspenders” or perhaps “bobble head liberals.” The Great Oz Has Spoken.


17 posted on 09/23/2007 2:46:48 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: FormerACLUmember

>open up to the light of day how CBS creates the news.

all the news thats fit to forge...


18 posted on 09/23/2007 2:47:05 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: LouAvul
Rather must think that Mary Mapes is a closet conservative.
19 posted on 09/23/2007 3:01:30 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: LouAvul

Bad Buckhead Bad! :)


20 posted on 09/23/2007 3:06:37 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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